Sweet tooth or fat tooth?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Toonces, Jan 22, 2004.

Does food preference affect dietary beliefs?

  1. I have a fat tooth and believe in low carb

    6 vote(s)
    24.0%
  2. I have a fat tooth and believe in low fat

    4 vote(s)
    16.0%
  3. I have a sweet tooth and believe in low carb

    8 vote(s)
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  4. I have a sweet tooth and believe in low fat

    7 vote(s)
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  1. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Maybe, maybe not. But you still haven't answered his question.
     
    #51     Jan 27, 2004
  2. OK,

    The Intuit [trader/axe are referring to] have high incidence of CVD, stroke and diabetes. You don't consider this healthy do you?

    Vegans have a very low incidence of these and more..

    You do the math..
     
    #52     Jan 27, 2004
  3. Longshot,

    For now, my question again is:
    What qualifications do you posses for giving opinions in this topic?
    That question seems pretty clear to me, and apparently to several others.

    As to what did I mean by "this tidbit," you'd accused me of "vague, unsupported opinion " in my responses.
    My point was, that far from any sort of "vague, insupported opinion," I offer science to backup what I say.

    I'm most happy to state what qualifies me to have an opinion on this diet issue, now how about you:
    What qualifications do you posses for giving opinions in this topic?
    If someone holds themselves out as knowledgable, then they should have no trouble supporting this

    Yuo've now been asked this question a number of times. Don't be evasive, shift the topic, engage in attempts at distraction, or ad homiem attacks - just answer the question:
    What qualifications do you posses for giving opinions in this topic?
     
    #53     Jan 27, 2004
  4. what did you say your qualifications are trader??
     
    #54     Jan 27, 2004
  5. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    You still haven't answered his question.
     
    #55     Jan 27, 2004
  6. *Physiology/nutrition undergrad
    *medical school
    *multiple published research works (anatomy, surgical technique, nutrition, AIDS, etc.)
    *intructor of anatomy/physiology/biology for R.N. and L.P.N. degree prgrams
    *instructor undergrad anatomy - university level
    *ciriculum development for undergrad anatomy
    *instructor med school anatomy - grad level
    *instructor American Council On Exercise
    *work with AIDs patients on muscle wasting and nutrition
    *work with adult patients on blood lipid lowering and nutrition
    *consultant for athletics in performance nutrition
    *author of several supplement/nutrition columns for fitness publications
    *20 years experience as a competitive athlete in 2 sports, reaching national ranking

    But you still haven't answered my question, Longshot!
    You evaded the issue once again, so once again, I ask you:
    What are YOUR qualifications for voicing opinions on the topic of nutrition?

    You can't evade by asking my qualifications now, so let's hear yours. Tell me why I, or anyone else should listen to you.
    What are your qualifications for voicing opinions on this topic?

    We're all waiting - speak up!
     
    #56     Jan 27, 2004
  7. LMAOOOO..... rabbit food boy is squirming and dodging now.
    What else can he do? He has never had a case.


    On the original Atkins thread he kept claiming that its
    IMPOSSIBLE to eat a high protein diet that is low in fat.

    I did some SIMPLE math and objectively proved
    that you can eat ***15,000*** calories of roasted chicken
    breast and STILL be under the RDA for fat intake!

    To this day he STILL attempts to claim you cant be high
    protein and low fat. Totally delusional. Its EASY to eat tons
    of MEAT each day and keep your fat low.

    Obviously, the rabbit food has rotted is brain. :D

    Now lets watch trader56 shred this Ornish cult follower
    to pieces with some real science :D
    It's quite entertaining watch longshot run away with his
    tail between his legs. LMAOO :D

    peace

    axeman



     
    #57     Jan 27, 2004
  8. franklin

    franklin

    I originally went on my lower-carb, higher-protein diet to heighten awareness while trading, and to reduce the risk of diabetes. I'm reluctant to get into personal details, since there is value in the anonymity this site affords us (mainly because there are many shy individuals who would not otherwise speak up, and because none of us wish to be attacked by whackos :) ). However, the info you request sounds fairly harmless (anyway, its the same type of results that almost everyone on this diet gets!), so here it is:

    Height: 6'2"

    Before the lower-carb, higher-protein diet, while eating many "low-fat" meals (often with rice and potatoes), my weight was about 205. On the new diet, it dropped to about 185 and has remained there for an extended period of time. More importantly, my triglycerides, HDL, and blood glucose moved from being borderline to safe levels. (BTW, I actually exercise a bit less now while on the new diet.)

    Personally, I don't think that weight/height ratios are a very good measure of a person's diabetes or heart disease risk. Some people are just bigger or smaller than others for a given height, even if eating comparable diets. You have to look inside to find out what the risks are.

    LS, I agree that you can do "better" than this on a somewhat lower-fat, higher-vegetable diet (with respect to extending life span). Problem is, you can't get the person with average discipline to stick to such a diet, because they don't like what they are eating, and/or what they are eating doesn't satisfy their hunger and/or provide them with enough energy. Anyone who has a friend or family member who's been on and off diets during the last 30 years knows what I'm talking about.

    As a species, we've been eating meat for at least 6 million years (even chimps eat meat). Eating more meat may even have been a key to our survival and brain evolution during that time (according to a recent book on the subject). I would like us to stop having to kill other animals to get our meat, but that will get fixed eventually (perhaps by being able to "grow" types of meat w/o using animals).
     
    #58     Jan 27, 2004


  9. 15,000 cals of chicken = HUNDREDS OF GRAMS of FAT!

    Axe says thats a low fat diet. FIFTEEN THOUSAND CALS CHICKEN!!

    BWAHAHAHA!! BWAHAHAHAHAA!

    Did you know that trader?

    You did simple math oh yes axe SIMPLE-MINDED. lol. :p

    Axe I think you got chicken fat between your ears.

    :D
     
    #59     Jan 27, 2004
  10. franklin

    franklin

    For clarification, when I use the term "meat", I am generally referring to all types of meat, including beef, pork, poultry, fish, seafood, etc. (for chimps it would be monkeys, termites, etc. :) )
     
    #60     Jan 27, 2004