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Discussion in 'Politics' started by apdxyk, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Deaths are Deaths though, don't look at tests for this, only use tests assuming the tests remain the same as a what's happening 7days before prediction tool.
     
    #71     Apr 16, 2020
  2. Turveyd

    Turveyd


    Correct as long as hospitals not beyond capacity, then same deaths, people are dying a tad sooner that's all, definately not worth crap.

    But most people are still on the fight it, never going to catch it, because if they do, they'll surely die, which is just pathetic.
     
    #72     Apr 16, 2020
  3. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Trump seems to agree with them, saying you are wrong on this one.
     
    #73     Apr 16, 2020
  4. Don't overlook the unintended consequences of overloaded hospitals. Yes, I agree that same amount of people will probably die, either sooner with no lockdown, vs. later if they let it eventually spread over months with no vacine.

    But if the hospital system is overloaded, its not just a matter of a few more people dying. Nurses might refuse to work, and that will be even more people dead. Many people recover in hospital and get sent home, and these same people might never.

    But even if you don't care about dead people, what happens to a city, to a country, where the system is overloaded. Does this spill onto other systems? I imagine a line-up to get into ER as long as the line-ups to get into Costco. Then all of a sudden you get people dying in the line, then you get chaos, then you social unrest, then you get police having to get involved, then you get more dead people via gunshots. In the US, it seems like many people have guns and this might just be the time to use them.

    If you let the hospital system implode, its not like other sectors won't have spill-over effects. Good luck trying to get the country back under control then.
     
    #74     Apr 16, 2020
  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Rest assured----Governors of states do not have the constitutional power to make people stay at home. One addition to what I said before, would be that they do have licensing authority so could potentially shutter business by pulling licenses. However, healthy individuals do not need licenses to leave their homes and assemble however they wish to. They have a constitutional right to these freedoms. ---The only people that could be made to stay home are the sick. You cannot legally quarantine the healthy. (Constitutionality of business licenses is another matter that would take a while to go through.)
     
    #75     Apr 16, 2020
  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    That's already occurring in several hospitals in the U.S. I recently learned about this from a few relatives that work at the hospital (South Dakota, Illinois) and a former girlfriend that's an ER doctor in Seattle.

    Letting a hospital implode is like letting grocery stores implode...we all know what happens when people don't have access to food for purchase.

    They loot and riot (this has not happen yet but police are increasingly becoming afraid of such).

    wrbtrader
     
    #76     Apr 16, 2020
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  7. Turveyd

    Turveyd


    But the infection rate is way less than expected, well the required hospitals, still loads of beds and ICU's in the UK, not used any of there newly built hospitals yet, so it's not bad enough to need a lockdown thus far.

    Mate next door, barely left the house in 3weeks just came down with it, only been to Tesco's express a few times, as I say BEACH is Safe, Small shops, breeding grounds.

    Lockdowns = Epic Fail!! Unless it's military bringing food to your house in hasmat suites.
     
    #77     Apr 16, 2020
  8. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Sure they do and nobody is even questioning it, except you and probably Faux News.

    South Dakota’s governor resisted stay-at-home orders. Now it has one of the nation’s largest coronavirus hot spots.

    https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-south-dakota-governor-20200413.html

    "with more than 300 workers at a giant pork-processing plant falling ill. With the case numbers continuing to spike, the company was forced to announce the indefinite closure of the facility Sunday, threatening the U.S. food supply."

    Thank you SD, but I want my beef and I want it NOW!!!
     
    #78     Apr 16, 2020
  9. apdxyk

    apdxyk

    Big deal. Robotised Costco meat-packing facilities don't suffer from this.

    On top of that SD is running a statewide HCQ study.
     
    #79     Apr 16, 2020

  10. Increase in number of fatalities due to COVID since Monday evening
    Norway + Finland : 50
    Sweden : 481
     
    #80     Apr 17, 2020