Sweden

Discussion in 'Politics' started by apdxyk, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. luisHK

    luisHK

    From ur article. I can't really imagine a punishment strong enough for those who pushed ( many keep on doing it) strict lockdowns. Would happily see those pushing softer lockdowns in place atm executed as well.
     
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    #451     Mar 27, 2021
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  2. Nobert

    Nobert

    ... Yup. Word.

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.s...ing-theres-going-to-be-a-lot-of-ptsd-12221072

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...suicide-attempt-due-to-coronavirus-fears/amp/

    Keep remembering her face. Shes beautiful & etc. But damn. What a f up year it was.
     
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  3. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    No that's wrong we can't say that, but ofcourse they can kill and ruin us crazy!


    How goes? Spain locking down again? 3rd wave lol

    Lockdown since start of November here, 5 months and although he said shops open 12th April we all expect that'll change just to cripple us more, deaths are sub 50 per day, hospitals I've literally looked, empty, nurses discussing how dead and how bored they are literally.

    Vaccine passports, failing to get public behind so backed off, not until everyones had access to, no pubs without, they tried to start it 12th april, people are starting to push back, but still too many annoying sheep asking for proof which has to be government backed not logic or reason, too brain washed.

    Kids wearing masks in school for 3 weeks, read for ever, 2 tests per week, guess what kids already had ages ago, all the fear kids will spread it and zero literally zero testing positive, surprise surprise lol

    Want all adults to ram cotton bud up nose and down throat with anti freeze on it aswell soon twice per week, screw that!
     
    #453     Mar 27, 2021
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  4. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    1 of the suicides sisters kids best mate 15, hung himself xmas eve, parents didn't find till xmas day :(

    So far aware of 2 deaths, thought 4, turns out deaths are so low 2 people know the same death, twice, hang on sounds familiar, daughter Helen yes, other death 6 doors away, do you live down this road? Yes ahhh same death.
     
    #454     Mar 27, 2021
  5. Nobert

    Nobert

    Hmnn. I haven't hear of any suicides only of a mom's - coworker's husband (42 y.o) dying, yet he went to the hospital in the last days while being sick for 13 days and another female 56 y.o coworker dying.

    Other than that , my 28 y.o sis had it and she has asthma aaaaaand, - only lost the ability to smell for a week.
     
    #455     Mar 27, 2021
  6. Millionaire

    Millionaire


    Sweden death rate, 5 times the rate in Norway, Finland and Denmark.

    This shows lockdowns in those 3 countries reduced deaths by 80%.

    There is no doubt in my mind that without lockdowns UK deaths would have been well above 250K and US deaths well above 1 million.

    Even with those higher deaths counts i will still say Lockdowns should still not have happened.

    But i'm not going to say Lockdowns didn't save a huge number of lives in the UK and US. Because it is obvious to me that they did.
     
    #456     Mar 27, 2021
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  7. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Suicides lots of them, they claim not, but I get 1 every 2 years not 6 in 1 year so bad shit.

    Girl I know with medical issues, told 100% you get, you die, had it tested twice and zero symptoms, mom scared for a year, had oxford vaccine, bad Flu after, you only get that if you've previous had Covid so mom and dad wasted 1 year at home scared and both had with no symptoms.
     
    #457     Mar 27, 2021
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  8. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    No point comparing, no lockdown at all, to very early super hard lockdown as UK did weak late lockdown and so did USA!


    There is no doubt in my mind of the 126K, atleast 20K where Oxford Vaccine Deaths, loads more merely died within 28days, back in September ONS said only 15K deaths, when at 60K so call it 30K actually died of Covid. ONS also recently said 2020 deaths only +7% above normal ( not average ) so that's 50K - Lockdown deaths yet again 30K.

    Lockdowns are after everyones already had it, so they've done bugger all, peaked UK start december ( ignoring Oxford Vaccine Deaths ), lockdown 23rd December. Not that they'll admit this as they want to push vaccines on all for some odd reason, not a good 1 no doubt,


    Atleast you still disagree with, the damage done for decades mentally and financially is just too much to even think about, many still blissfully unaware / just don't care.
     
    #458     Mar 27, 2021
  9. luisHK

    luisHK

    Spain went through the 3rd wave already. Now they are scared of the 4th wave, which is alegedly starting ( even talking abt 5th wave in some news today not sure why)
    Some provinces have had rather strict lockdowns, others less so, everything has been open since last June in Madrid, nowadays restaurants and businesses have to cllse their lights by 11pm. A whole bunch of other restrictions, which are more or less followed. Face mask omnipresent though, I almost only go to places where they are overall not worn, but not so many of those in the city, ugly. Gyms, restaurants, entertainment centers open since last June yet on paper and started a few weeks ago, one is not allowed to have any guest at home, happily even parents who are not keen on doing ilegal stuff are jumping that rule now, and kids play quite a bit with their friends, at home and outside.

    Bad news is they want to push a national rule that would force Madrid restaurants ad bars to close their indoor and closed terraces area. Madrid doesn t agree and restaurants have remained open through the last 2 waves but it might be bullied into it.
    Other provinces have stricter rules and stricter enforcement.
    Not sure when they will start saying lockdowns are not worth it, we already have the oldest folks vaccinated and covid damage should be even lower than before.
    I know a whole bunch of people who tested positive btw, mostly small deals but at our gym 2 were hospitalised, and another one had a very tough time during 2 weeks, not sure whether he was hospitalised.
    I grappled ( hard to get a closer contact) with several people just before they tested positive, on diferent occasions, and neither felt ill nor was I ever contacted by contact tracers ( infamously ineficient in Madrid, which I apreciate)
     
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    #459     Mar 28, 2021
  10. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Meanwhile we "punished" our former prez by booting him out of office, for not doing a lockdown sooner and with more enforcement and compliance, which led to way more deaths than otherwise.
     
    #460     Mar 28, 2021