Sweden

Discussion in 'Politics' started by apdxyk, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    There is no evidence of this whatsoballsout.
     
    #421     Jul 23, 2020
  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I agree with you. Same with PA, similar population size and same death numbers WITH a lockdown. Now we do know that an American lockdown isn't the same as a European one, but then why even try it? And even if it is a lockdown, 3 weeks should do it, instead of a extended 2 months one....
     
    #422     Jul 23, 2020
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  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Buy1Sell2,

    Every time I post charts, links to the facts as a reply to you specifically...

    You say nothing and quickly disappear. :D

    If you think these facts do not exist...I'm not going to waste my time proving you wrong again with another chart or link to the facts. Yet, I'll post an image (below) from the science article.

    Simply, do your own research. You're no longer suitable for posting any facts to because you have a bad habit of not acknowledging research by others that are posting publicly available stats, graphs and links. :rolleyes:

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    wrbtrader
     
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    #423     Jul 23, 2020
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  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Most of the info I've seen has shown U.S. to be much worst than Sweden even though those sources were not comparing the two.

    Therefore, not sure why one would compare Sweden to Michigan considering Michigan is not a Scandinavian country. Further, Michigan does not have a similar like healthcare system that took on the Coronavirus.

    You guys need to really look at the facts as initiated by others in this thread:
    • Compare Sweden to other countries that did not lockdown...there are countries that did not lockdown. Stats were posted in this thread.
    • Compare Sweden to other countries with a similar like healthcare system considering the lead epidemiologist and prime minister of Sweden have publicly stated their problems with Coronavirus is due to their inept healthcare system. Stats were posted in this thread.
    • Compare Sweden to its Scandinavian countries...the same countries that has shut their borders to Sweden. Stats were posted in this thread.
    • Compare Sweden to other countries with government leaders that believe in herd immunity (there's a few). Stats were posted in this thread.
    Simply, compare apples to apples...not apples to oranges via comparing Sweden to individual states in the U.S. although a few of those believers at this forum that believe in the herd immunity theory are living currently in the U.S. :rolleyes:

    wrbtrader
     
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    #424     Jul 23, 2020
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  5. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Because it is mostly Americans here (an assumption) who are bitching about Sweden. Now when we have 10-12 US states with lock down doing just as bad as Sweden, Americans here have no right to bitch anymore.

    That simple...

    Also it shows the weakness of a badly executed lock down. If you are doing as bad with lock down as other countries without it, then why bother and screw your business life and employment??
     
    #425     Jul 23, 2020
  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Now when we have 10-12 US states with lock down doing just as bad as Sweden, Americans here have no right to bitch anymore.

    The issue is that many believe the stats aren't true about Sweden and there's a misconception about Sweden's not doing a lockdown...

    They actually did a lockdown but they (as in Sweden) coined it as a "Lockdown Lite".

    Regardless, whom did the lockdown with the most restrictions...the above partly answers your question via the fact that Sweden did a Lockdown Lite.

    The other part to your question, too late to wonder about the why. It's now more about what's going to happen in tomorrow, next month, end of year and next year. That's the true frustration for most.

    As stated, I have no skin in this game when it comes to Sweden. Yet, I just find it odd whenever facts are posted...certain individuals ignores them and then runs away as if they had some skin in the game to Sweden.

    Then again, this is ET and such type of behaviour is the norm. :D

    Yet, as stated in another thread, if I was going to compare the U.S. Covid-19 response / results...it would be to itself in comparison to the prior Pandemic...SARS.

    As stated, I won't bother posting facts because I've come to the conclusion that certain individuals aren't interested in such. They prefer to be ignorant and ignore the facts. That's also their choice to be as such. Yet, I do find it oddly similar to the response that the U.S. had (still do) when the Pandemic was first declared as a Pandemic.

    I'm going to assume that the government of Sweden made a decision that their citizens will co-operate and be socially responsible. Thus, they decided to only do a "Lockdown Lite" whereas the U.S. didn't trust its citizens with something like a "Lockdown Lite" policy...rhetorical question.

    The day a vaccine is approved and distributed to all in the world, I'm hoping they don't fuck that up too.

    P.S. In my opinion, the U.S. would be far worst as a country that did not lockdown or only did a lockdown lite because they do not have what it takes to be socially responsible from the top (leaders) down to its citizens.

    Completely different group in charge then those when SARS Pandemic.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #426     Jul 23, 2020
  7. apdxyk

    apdxyk

  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Really tremendous numbers in Sweden. They have really played this well and are either at, or nearly at, herd immunity now in my view. Other than their nursing home debacle, this is the model that the world should be following I believe. I suspect that Brazil is getting much closer now to herd immunity as well.

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    #428     Jul 24, 2020
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  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    Lapplanders are buried under rocks in the snow. Fiskeballen for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
     
    #429     Jul 24, 2020
  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    #430     Jul 24, 2020