Sweden

ironchef · May 5, 2020

luisHK said:
An article very pro Sweden policy, but taking for granted Sweden is past its infection peak. Outside Sweden, much of Europe hasn´t even reopened its borders, sometimes even to its own citizens wishing to leave, and 2 weeks quarantine on arrival are already introduced, it just happened to France and other EU countries might follow.

https://us.yahoo.com/news/sweden-bucked-conventional-wisdom-other-222649065.html

Spring is in the air, and it is increasingly found in the confident step of the people of Sweden.

With a death rate significantly lower than that of France, Spain, the U.K., Belgium, Italy, and other European Union countries, Swedes can enjoy the spring without panic or fears of reigniting a new epidemic as they go about their day in a largely normal fashion.

Dr. Mike Ryan, the executive director of the World Health Organization’s Emergencies Program, says: “I think if we are to reach a new normal, I think in many ways Sweden represents a future model — if we wish to get back to a society in which we don’t have lockdowns.”

The Swedish ambassador to the U.S., Karin Ulrika Olofsdotter, says: “We could reach herd immunity in the capital” of Stockholm as early as sometime in May. That would dramatically limit spread of the virus.

A month ago, we first wrote about Sweden’s approach, which we said “relies more on calibrated precautions and isolating only the most vulnerable than on imposing a full lockdown.”

A fortunate constellation of circumstances ensured that Dr. Anders Tegnell, the chief epidemiologist of Sweden, was in charge of that country’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, despite the misgivings of many Swedish politicians and foreign observers. Tegnell heroically bucked the conventional wisdom of every other nation and carefully examined the insubstantial evidence that social-isolation controls would help reduce COVID-19 deaths over the full course of the virus.

As Tegnell told NPR in early April: “I’m not sure that there is a scientific consensus on, really, about anything when it comes to this new coronavirus, basically because we don’t have much evidence for any kind of measures we are taking.”

Well, a month later we now know more.

Myth No. 1: Sweden’s policy was not carefully thought out or well considered.
The number of cases in Sweden and other countries is still rising, but in Sweden one-third of intensive-care beds remain empty. Tegnell has looked at other nations that are loosening their lockdowns. “To me it looks like a lot of the exit strategies that are being discussed look very much like what Sweden is already doing,” he told Canada’s Globe & Mail.

Tegnell and his colleagues recognized that the decision to shut down a country was not solely a medical decision based only on the virus The economic costs and health impacts caused by lockdowns are enormous, they realized, so they factored into their analysis the broader societal effects of any restrictions. The saw, for instance, that there is no evidence that children easily transmit the virus. Tegnell told NPR:

We look at other consequences for public health, like closing schools. That causes enormous problems, not least for the health of the children. I mean, children that already are disadvantaged, if you close down the schools, this is the one good thing they have sometimes in life. This is where they get their food. This is where they get their social context. So closing schools is not a good thing.

Jan Albert, a professor in the Department of Microbiology, Tumor, and Cell Biology at Sweden’s Karolinska Institute, told CNN that strict lockdowns “only serve to flatten the curve, and flattening the curve doesn’t mean that cases disappear — they are just moved in time.” He added: “And as long as the health-care system reasonably can cope with and give good care to the ones that need care, it’s not clear that having the cases later in time is better.”

Myth No. 2: Sweden did much worse than the U.S. or other countries in managing COVID-19 cases and deaths.
Sweden has about 2,200 reported COVID-19 cases per million population. This is lower than the number in the U.S. (3,053 per million), the U.K., France, Spain, Italy, and also lower than in many other EU countries. It’s slightly above the number in Germany, which has been hailed for its approach to the virus.

Sweden has 265 reported COVID-19 deaths per million population. That is somewhat higher than in the U.S. (204 per million) but lower than the number in many other EU countries.

Tegnell admits that his country failed to contain the initial outbreak in crowded senior homes. “Something like 50 percent of our death toll comes from the rather small population living in care homes,” he said. “We know that we have had a problem with the elderly homes, this has been a discussion for years.”

As elsewhere, Swedish COVID-19 deaths are overwhelmingly among the frail elderly and those with serious chronic disease. Over half of Swedish deaths are in nursing homes. Of those who died, 90 percent were over 70 and half were over 86, with just 1 percent younger than 50.

It is ironic that half of the Swedish deaths are in people over the age of 86. Life expectancy in Sweden is 83, whereas it’s 79 in the U.S., so it isn’t surprising that there are relatively more frail elderly in Sweden. Out of every 100,000 births, about 10,000 more Swedes are still alive at age 85 than Americans are, so Sweden’s slightly higher COVID-19 death rate, compared with ours, mostly reflects the fact that a larger percentage of Swedes live well past 79.

So, on an age-adjusted basis, Sweden has done significantly better than the U.S. in terms of both cases per million and deaths per million — and with no lockdowns.

Myth No. 3: Sweden’s relatively low number of intensive-care beds would spell disaster for its response to the virus.
Initially, the main justification for the global lockdowns was that they were necessary to prevent a crush of patients from overwhelming hospital intensive-care units. But Sweden has shown that shutting down the economy and essentially imprisoning the young and healthy are not necessary to avoid ICU overcrowding. Despite no lockdowns and few social-isolation controls other than proper spacing in restaurants and a ban on gatherings of more than 50 people, the Swedish hospital system never experienced anything remotely like the crush of ICU patients in Italy, Spain, and New York City. Sweden’s ICU COVID-19 patient census (updated nationwide daily) peaked in early April, with about 50 new admissions daily. Now it is gradually declining to about 35 new ICU cases a day.

Unlike its Nordic neighbors and everywhere else, Sweden doesn’t have to worry about when to reintroduce its “vulnerable” isolated population to social mixing and risk their exposure to the virus. That has been already happening naturally and has generated a defensive reservoir of population viral resistance to COVID-19 that puts it — just like SARS, MERS, and the seasonal flu — in Sweden’s rearview mirror.

Sweden doesn’t have to worry about when and how to end social isolation. They don’t have to decide who to keep locked down and who to let out. They don’t have to get into civil-liberty arguments over involuntary restrictions or whether to fine people for not wearing masks and gloves.

Of course, Sweden paid a price during the pandemic. But whatever price the Swedes paid for their COVID-19 policy, they will tell you it was worth it. And it is easy to figure out that price. They never cratered their economy or blocked nonemergency surgeries. They had more deaths than their Nordic neighbors, but nothing even close to the 650 deaths per million the U.S. suffered during the 1968 Hong Kong flu, a pandemic that was handled with few social-isolation controls and no lockdowns.

Now many countries and U.S. states are beginning to follow Sweden’s lead. But California and other states continue to pile up isolation-induced health costs and blow gigantic holes in their budgets with lockdowns that, nationwide, have generated more than 30 million newly unemployed.

John Fund is a columnist for National Review and has reported frequently from Sweden. Joel Hay is a professor in the department of Pharmaceutical Economics and Policy at the University of Southern California; the author of more than 600 peer-reviewed scientific articles and reports, he has collaborated with the Swedish Institute for Health Economics for nearly 40 years.
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Always good to look at things from the other side. Thank you.

So, Trump think like the Swedish and may be right all along?

southall · May 5, 2020

Stockholm deaths are around the same as New York City per capita.

1500 Stockholm dead would be the same as 12,750 dead in New York.

Whynottrade · May 5, 2020

Whynottrade said:
Increase in fatalities during the past 15 days

Sweden - 1456
Norway+Finland - 212

"Swedish Policy Factor" = 6.87
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Whynottrade said:
Norway and Finland together has more than Sweden's population. Similar culture, geography, food habits etc.

# of deaths due to COVID

Norway - 134
Finland - 59
Total - 193

Sweden - 919
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Increase in fatalities during the past 21 days

Sweden - 1935
Norway+Finland - 261

"Swedish Policy Factor" = 7.41

Pekelo · May 5, 2020

Whynottrade said:
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Since half of their dead is over 80, I wonder how those numbers look for the under 60 crowd. And the under 35 too.

Whynottrade · May 5, 2020

Pekelo said:
Since half of their dead is over 80, I wonder how those numbers look for the under 60 crowd. And the under 35 too.
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#KidsInCages, #GrandmaUnderGround, #GOP2020

luisHK · May 5, 2020

Pekelo said:
Since half of their dead is over 80, I wonder how those numbers look for the under 60 crowd. And the under 35 too.
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According to an article above half the dead were over 86, which is 3 years above the life expectancy in Sweden, and 7 years above the one in the US:

luisHK · May 5, 2020

Whynottrade said:
#KidsInCages, #GrandmaUnderGround, #GOP2020
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You can still improve your safety:

https://www.americanveterinarian.com/news/most-mammals-live-longer-in-zoos-than-in-the-wild
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/...-spayed-and-neutered-dogs-live-longer/275121/

luisHK · May 7, 2020

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-05/esfm-atf050520.php

You see, men receiving anti androgenic treatment for prostate cancer less likely to catch covid, already read before testosterone made men more likely to catch the flu.
While life expectancy has shot up men testosterone levels have been halved over a few decades.
This lockdown is quite typical of a low test cowardly society
Interestingly Sweden doesn t exactly come out as a society where traditional masculinity is looked up to, but it's shown now more than once it is daring enough to go its own way. Bemusing how much of the world crawled into police enforced lockdowns and curfews.

Pekelo · May 7, 2020

Here is an interesting fact: Most Swedish people have adequate vitamin D level, probably because they know they have a long, dark winter and they supply extra during those months.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4432023/

People with adequate levels are less likely to fall ill when get the virus. Something to think about. Old people, blacks, fat people all have low level of vit D.

Pekelo · May 8, 2020

https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...death-rate-in-european-countries-study/352343

Italy and Spain have both experienced high COVID-19 mortality rates, and according to the new study, both countries have lower average vitamin D levels than most northern European countries.

They said this is partly because people in southern Europe, particularly the elderly, avoid strong sun, while skin pigmentation also reduces natural vitamin D synthesis.

The highest average levels of vitamin D are found in northern Europe, due to the consumption of cod liver oil, and vitamin D supplements, and possibly less sun avoidance, the researchers said.

They said Scandinavian nations are among the countries with the lowest number of COVID-19 cases and mortality rates per head of population in Europe.

"We found a significant crude relationship between average vitamin D levels and the number COVID-19 cases, and particularly COVID-19 mortality rates, per head of population across the 20 European countries,"