Sweden

Discussion in 'Politics' started by apdxyk, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. luisHK

    luisHK

    Nah, one will have to check in a few months, once the lockdowns have been lifted in the US and life there has been similar to Sweden's for a while. Last I checked the virus hadn t hit hard yet some parts of the US, but the same can probably be said about Sweden
     
    #221     May 1, 2020
  2. southall

    southall

    Some say sweden will eventually hit 10,000 deaths this year. That will be same as 320,000 US.
     
    #222     May 1, 2020
  3. luisHK

    luisHK

    Dunno, don t even know who is "some", it is early to estimate how many if any lives the lockdowns have saved. One would need to add in the cost of the lockdown, just in non coronavirus human deaths it might be heavy and just a small part of it.
     
    #223     May 1, 2020
  4. southall

    southall

    Countries like Sweden, New Zealand have a huge psychological advantage vs the US.

    Same for Denmark, Finland, Norway and many other countries. But they are not using it.

    The advantage was the smaller population. And absolute number of deaths.

    10,000 deaths in Sweden doesn't sound that bad.
    But 320,000 US deaths feels traumatic.
    Even though both numbers are the same per capita.

    Lockdowns will have to be lifted soon. Cant go on like this. Even if it means the US death count will exceed 100K.


    The analogy is trading.

    1% of 10,000 equity is $100

    1% of 100,000 is $1,000.

    For most people $1,000 loss feels a lot worse. Even if the persons total net worth is 10 times more.
     
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    #224     May 1, 2020
  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Glad someone understands this. Hopefully, the curve can be on a steep decline prior to the arrival of the flu season (I believe in December).

    Can't imagine the hospitals trying to deal with both the Flu patients and Coronavirus patients. They just don't have the capacity for such...it will be overwhelming.

    wrbtrader
     
    #225     May 1, 2020
  6. luisHK

    luisHK


    Yes, I´m keen on thinking in percentages rather than absolute numbers but that makes sense, a lot of people are being too emotional.
    Besides read in an article about Sweden today that Finland officials are worried the virus hasn´t spread much yet there and they are still far from the peak. An issue with early lockdowns.
     
    #226     May 1, 2020
  7. luisHK

    luisHK

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    #227     May 1, 2020
  8. apdxyk

    apdxyk

    Our local hospital is begging people to come to ER if necessary. Serious layoffs among medical staff here
     
    #228     May 2, 2020
  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    Update of total projected death from U of Washington. Contrasting Norway and Sweden:

    Total projected death: Noway = 272; Sweden = 17337

    One country practices lockdown and social distancing, the other doesn't. Guess which is which.

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    #229     May 2, 2020
  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    Your state practice lockdown and social distancing?
     
    #230     May 2, 2020