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Discussion in 'Politics' started by apdxyk, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. luisHK

    luisHK

    #151     Apr 21, 2020
  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I guess I remembered wrong. I looked it up, Nepal has only 43 cases, zero death. I guess the article probably said zero death, not zero cases. My bad. The point is Nepal has a population 3 times of Sweden, yet no death and only 4 dozen cases!!!

    Because they locked down at the end of January!!! Sweden has 1765 deaths as of now with 15K cases.
     
    #152     Apr 21, 2020
  3. luisHK

    luisHK

    Reading part of the wikipedia article it seems Nepal is largely unable to test for the virus, so it is hard to compare. Anyway so far Sweden neighbours which are probably better points of comparison with more restrictions on borders and daily life have registered less coronavirus deaths.I m not arguing that point
     
    #153     Apr 21, 2020
  4. keesa

    keesa

    Most of the third world countries will have herd immunity soon.
     
    #154     Apr 21, 2020
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  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Southall sent to Coventry. Turveyd taking the high point at Trafalgar.
     
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    #155     Apr 21, 2020
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  6. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    I can't believe that folks can't understand this ---without a vaccine, herd immunity is the answer other than treatment with HCQ. Turveyd gets it and is the top authority.
     
    #156     Apr 21, 2020
  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    Except the WHO now said immunity may not exist even after you recover from infection.

    There goes herd immunity.
     
    #157     Apr 21, 2020
  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    FALSE
     
    #158     Apr 21, 2020
  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Anyone that talks about "herd immunity" needs to first learn about it.

    Simple explanations @ https://www.healthline.com/health/herd-immunity#stats

    https://www.sciencealert.com/why-herd-immunity-will-not-save-us-from-the-covid-19-pandemic

    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...on-what-vaccine-immune-covid-19-a9397871.html

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/herd-immunity/

    Thus, without vaccination...herd immunity is not a good alternative. In fact, not discussed in the above article...it often fails to develop.

    Another way to look at it, you can not force (create) herd immunity on a population if there's no vaccination. Too many false narratives floating around here at Elitetrader.com and elsewhere that if there's no vaccination...herd immunity is the alternative solution.

    I learned the following in Immunology 501 in college and its critical to the understanding of herd immunity...

    “Unlike vaccination, herd immunity does not give a high level of individual protection, and so it is not a good alternative to getting vaccinated,”
    - Vaccine Knowledge Project

    wrbtrader
     
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    #159     Apr 21, 2020
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  10. ironchef

    ironchef

    WHO didn't say that?
     
    #160     Apr 21, 2020