Sweden Coasts through Corona. Open for Business. 0.1% Death Rate. Herd Immunity imminent

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Hotcakes, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. Nobert

    Nobert

    ,,
    half of Sweden's coronavirus deaths are in care homes where visits are already banned.''
     
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2020
    #11     Apr 25, 2020
  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Trump’s approach was to downplay and ignore the virus and now to prevent states from getting medical gear.

    It’s been a month since he put up that consortium of companies to improve testing. How’s that been going?
     
    #12     Apr 25, 2020
  3. wildchild

    wildchild

    How I feel about science? Really? You bought the lie about masks. You took it hook, line, and sinker. I accurately called it out as bullshit. You were wrong then and you are wrong now.

    GWB was touting a 6.89% death rate and I nailed that death rate over a month ago.

    Neither one of have anything to do with science. You are alarmists and believe in propaganda.

    You are a risk to everyone's liberty.
     
    #13     Apr 25, 2020
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  4. Overnight

    Overnight

    Where did I ever speak about masks? In this thread or anywhere? Again, interjecting your context out-of-context. Geez!

    I'm simply on about the need for antibody tests. I don't care about masks or other PPE. That shit doesn't matter.
     
    #14     Apr 25, 2020
  5. jem

    jem

    that is a very interesting data point.

     
    #15     Apr 25, 2020
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  6. Hotcakes

    Hotcakes

    Newsflash: 94 year old in LT Nursing home dies of COVID!!!!!

    Newsflash: 94 year olds die.
     
    #16     Apr 25, 2020
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #17     Apr 25, 2020
  8. jem

    jem

    are you fucking out of your mind with fear?

    I have a neighbor on Chemo right now who displays more reasoned thought that you have on this subject. She was bummed her doctors cut her treatments short by two treatments because of Covid and she fully understands the risks a compromised immune system poses.

    you seem to have an aversion to reasoned analysis on any subject, data or fact which seems to mitigate against shut down.

    the absence of studies acceptable to the WHO is not the same as saying we won't get herd immunity. Its an open question...

    below is what it says... in part...
    and in no way does it say the Swedish minister has been spouting nonsense.
    In fact I read he said this is not about herd immunity...



    https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19
    ...


    "The development of immunity to a pathogen through natural infection is a multi-step process that typically takes place over 1-2 weeks. The body responds to a viral infection immediately with a non-specific innate response in which macrophages, neutrophils, and dendritic cells slow the progress of virus and may even prevent it from causing symptoms. This non-specific response is followed by an adaptive response where the body makes antibodies that specifically bind to the virus. These antibodies are proteins called immunoglobulins. The body also makes T-cells that recognize and eliminate other cells infected with the virus. This is called cellular immunity. This combined adaptive response may clear the virus from the body, and if the response is strong enough, may prevent progression to severe illness or re-infection by the same virus. This process is often measured by the presence of antibodies in blood.

    WHO continues to review the evidence on antibody responses to SARS-CoV-2 infection.2-17 Most of these studies show that people who have recovered from infection have antibodies to the virus. However, some of these people have very low levels of neutralizing antibodies in their blood,4 suggesting that cellular immunity may also be critical for recovery. As of 24 April 2020, no study has evaluated whether the presence of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 confers immunity to subsequent infection by this virus in humans."

    and this...





    "At this point in the pandemic, there is not enough evidence about the effectiveness of antibody-mediated immunity to guarantee the accuracy of an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate.” People who assume that they are immune to a second infection because they have received a positive test result may ignore public health advice. The use of such certificates may therefore increase the risks of continued transmission. As new evidence becomes available, WHO will update this scientific brief."






     
    #18     Apr 25, 2020
  9. wildchild

    wildchild

    Sorry pal, your views are not warranted!

    Are you a trader? You don't think logically.
     
    #19     Apr 25, 2020
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    No, I am not a trader. I have never traded, ever.
     
    #20     Apr 25, 2020