Surf's Special Situation Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by marketsurfer, Aug 4, 2012.

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  1. Ok. One more time-- your reasoning is circular. There is no edge to what you are saying-- pattern forms or pattern fails-- random entry profits or it does not. Patterns are irrelevant. They offer the delusion of prediction only in hindsight. Ok, back on ignore. Please don't post On my thread any more.
     
    #261     Sep 12, 2012
  2. Fah Q

    Fah Q

    im not saying there is an inherent edge in THIS particular pattern as described in my example, i'm refuting what you said about ta patterns. you said they cannot fail by definition and i just provided an example of one that could.


    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3622914&highlight=ta+patterns#post3622914


    "The pattern would not, could not exist if it failed. Therein lays the one of the logical flaws of your thinking and the other TA proponents. The only patterns that you can see are completed patterns--therefore everyone one has "worked". surf"
     
    #262     Sep 12, 2012
  3. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    semantics, schemantics...

    How about this : SPX 1430-40 is the dead zone, above long, below short?
     
    #263     Sep 12, 2012
  4. Sounds like my old neogann channel. That can work, but one needs to realize that the channel can be drawn randomly on the chart and it will have the same success as Gann numbers or other TA ways to determine the levels. This is how I discovered just how ridiculous TA really is when I started randomly plotting the channel.

    Surf
     
    #264     Sep 12, 2012
  5. We are doubling down on the long here at 13320. Man, this is going rock, if our forecast pans out. surf
     
    #265     Sep 12, 2012
  6. Surf,

    just for the record

    are you still short the penny.............:confused:
     
    #266     Sep 12, 2012
  7. oh yeah, second entry nailed it. Holding here....

    surf

    AIrfrance from 35k feet

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    #267     Sep 12, 2012
  8. Yes. Things are taking longer than i first expected----

    surf
     
    #268     Sep 12, 2012
  9. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Well, if it has the same success, it just shows that the Gann numbers are worthless. If it works, why use the Gann numbers if random channels give the same results and if it doesn't work, well, then it is worthless anyway.

    But, just because random channels can have positive expectancy it doesn't mean it is a bad idea. After all, it is not the entry, but the exit what determines the outcome...
     
    #269     Sep 12, 2012
  10. I don't disagree. My channel system works and proves TA timing worthless.
     
    #270     Sep 12, 2012
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