Supreme Court rules in favor of Colorado baker who wouldn't make same-sex wedding cake

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jun 4, 2018.

  1. jem

    jem

    I just quoted you the case.... read the pdf... the boston globe linked to the pdf.
    I don't know what mislead you but you are dead ass wrong.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...edding-cake/zEa90Ok1DbXrTJZ1Ln0hSP/story.html


     
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    #41     Jun 5, 2018
  2. I am not a legal scholar, but I see it as:

    Not selling a cake to someone because of their religious, sexual, (and soon to be political) believes and choices, is discrimination.

    Forcing a baker to do a cake based on your 'own' religious, sexual, (and soon to be political) believes and choices is stupid liberal logic.
     
    #42     Jun 5, 2018
  3. jem

    jem

    if you saying - if you sell cakes you can't refuse to sell cakes to a gay person but at the same time you don't have to create a cake with a pro gay message on it... you are probably guessing where this current court is.

    its a very slippery slope but at least yesterday's decision avoided over the top fascism that the most lefties seem to support.

     
    #43     Jun 5, 2018
  4. This is disappointing, Trojan Horse language from the Court. I can see it being exploited to challenge reasonable measures to counter Islamic terrorism. So we are not allowed to oppose jihad, a core muslim belief? And please, no one embarrass themselves by saying it means struggle. Jihad means to fight the enemies of islam, eg all other religions, by any means necessary.
     
    #44     Jun 5, 2018
  5. What if the state passed a law requiring you to post a pro Trump poster in your window. Would that be ok? After all, they passed a law and applied it to people running a business. The correct answer is it would be illegal under the First Amendment. The state cannot force anyone to advocate for a political question.

    So why aren't you willing to give the free exercise clause the same deference? Why aren't the baker's constitutional rights paramount to some SJW's hurt feelings? The fact that progressives do not respect religion is not really an adequate answer.
     
    #45     Jun 5, 2018
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  6. UsualName

    UsualName

    #46     Jun 5, 2018
  7. UsualName

    UsualName

    Come on, that is such a weak and invalid argument, it’s not even relevant.
     
    #47     Jun 5, 2018
  8. jem

    jem

    I will type this for you in the court's exact words...
    your news sources must be slanted... for you to have this so wrong. .


    " The judgement of the Colorado Court of Appeals is reversed."


    Kennedy, J., delivered the opinion of the Court... "


    I quoted you the holding one page back.
    The Colorado Govt was intolerant of the bakers rights and the baker won.


     
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    #48     Jun 5, 2018
  9. UsualName

    UsualName

    What do you think was reversed?
     
    #49     Jun 5, 2018
  10. jem

    jem

    I know the ruling of the Colorado Appellate court was reversed. Its a fact.


    The Colorado appellate court affirmed the ruling of the Colorado administrative law court in favor of the gay couple and against the baker. The lower state court rejected the baker's claim that requiring to bake a cake for a same sex wedding would violate his first amendment rights and his right to the free exercise of religion.
    (you can read this in the first paragraph of the US. Supreme Court opinion)

    then

    the US supreme court reversed the Colorado Court. Finding for the Baker saying the state of Colorado was intolerant of the Baker's rights.




     
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    #50     Jun 5, 2018
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