Supreme court ducks the issue

Discussion in 'Politics' started by axeman, Jun 14, 2004.

  1. Pabst

    Pabst

    What newspapers? Pravda? I don't see any synonym of "dodge" appearing in the headlined stories appearing in the NYT or in either of the D.C. papers.

    Yes the words dodge or sidestep connote an inability to tackle a question head on. Keep in mind though that if the case been heard, I suspect the 9th would have been overturned. Tellingly, although Scalia recused himself (because of public comments regarding the lower courts decision), it was conservative Justices who lobbied for Newdow's legal parental standing. Newdow was history no matter if a decision was made or not.
     
    #51     Jun 14, 2004
  2. Turok

    Turok

    Art:
    >Did the department head "duck" or "sidestep"
    >an interview with the candidate?

    By dictionary reference it is provable the ONE valid answer to the above it "yes".

    I would also agree that the most common usage of the above would imply something nefarious.

    JB
     
    #52     Jun 14, 2004
  3. Turok

    Turok

    CNN online even used the term "sidestep". *One* of the dictionary terms for sidestep is "evade", though I don't believe that is how it was meant.

    JB
     
    #53     Jun 14, 2004
  4. Turok

    Turok

    I believe you are quite likely right.

    JB
     
    #54     Jun 14, 2004
  5. It means what you read into it for you, and who knows what you are reading into a headline.

    My read is the connotation of the word "duck" "dodge" "sidestep" as it is used typically, as it is being used in this context means abandon willingly a responsibility. Newspapers use language to inflame the readers, both pro and con. They use colorful language to sell papers, not dry and exact terms to avoid misunderstanding.

    Their use of the word "duck" "dodge" or "sidestep" implies that the court did not fulfill their responsibility. It implies that they were unwilling to examine the issues, when in fact they were perfectly willing to hear the issues if the case were not technically flawed. Their duty is to reject such cases of technical flaw, they did their duty properly.

    The court did no such thing as "dodge" "duck" nor "sidestep." The court acted properly to "dismiss" and "reject" the case.

    The member of the atheist cult you quoted is naturally pissed off, he would naturally choose the word "duck" or "dodge" feeling the court had a responsibility to hear the issues of the case, but he was wrong.

    Surprising actually, that the atheist cult member would not be more reasonable and rational in his choice of words, and understand that what the court did was reasonable, rational, and proper given the circumstances.

    I guess this is a very emotional issue for this cult group.


     
    #55     Jun 14, 2004
  6. What newspapers???
    Ummmm Pabst... I QUOTED them in a previous post on this thread,
    including the washington post and LA times and 2 others.
    I went to www.latimes.com, for example, and it was
    on their front page where I did a DIRECT copy and paste. :confused:

    Just checked...STILL the top headline.



    Now back to the question, which you still havent answered yet
    which gets to the core of this discussion:


    WHAT did the newspapers MEAN by dodge/sidestep???

    Please answer the question this time.


    peace

    axeman







     
    #56     Jun 14, 2004
  7. It means what you read into it for you, and who knows what you are reading into a headline.

    AAaaaaaaahhhh Optional finally ADMITS the word can
    have several meanings! :D

    ME reading into the headline! Thats laughable!!
    Its CLEARLY YOU that is reading into the headline and
    implying some kind of cheating...LOL :p

    My read is the connotation of the word "duck" "dodge" "sidestep" as it is used typically, as it is being used in this context means abandon willingly a responsibility. Newspapers use language to inflame the readers, both pro and con. They use colorful language to sell papers, not dry and exact terms to avoid misunderstanding.

    Their use of the word "duck" "dodge" or "sidestep" implies that the court did not fulfill their responsibility. It implies that they were unwilling to examine the issues, when in fact they were perfectly willing to hear the issues if the case were not technically flawed. Their duty is to reject such cases of technical flaw, they did their duty properly.


    LOL.... now he can read the minds of the newspaper writers too!!

    Wow ART... we already know you THINK you have magical powers
    like communicating with god directly, but now you can read
    these peoples minds too? Amazing...truly amazing! LMAOOOOO :p


    The court did no such thing as "dodge" "duck" nor "sidestep." The court acted properly to "dismiss" and "reject" the case.

    Blah blah blah....keep repeating that to yourself.
    Whos the PARROT now? LOL!

    I thought this was already settled. There are MULTIPLE meanings
    of the word DODGE/SIDESTEP and its perfectly reasonable
    to read it as "the court failed to address the core issue".
    End of debate.


    The member of the atheist cult you quoted is naturally pissed off, he would naturally choose the word "duck" or "dodge" feeling the court had a responsibility to hear the issues of the case, but he was wrong.

    More Ad Hominem attacks. Cult? Thats pretty funny coming
    from someone who claims to speak to god himself! LMAOOO :p


    Surprising actually, that the atheist cult member would not be more reasonable and rational in his choice of words, and understand that what the court did was reasonable, rational, and proper given the circumstances.

    Again...MULTIPLE sources CHOSE THE SAME WORDING.
    YOU are the one with the problem reading to deeply and ASSUMING
    you KNOW the true meaning of the words they chose.



    I guess this is a very emotional issue for this cult group.


    I think its clear who is emotional here.... you keep attacking
    people with labels as CULT MEMBERS.....calm down ok?
    I know it hurts when you're wrong...but really...its ok ART.

    Now run off and go talk to god some more while you read
    peoples minds...LMAOOOO :p


    peace

    axeman
     
    #57     Jun 14, 2004
  8. Banjo

    Banjo

    You guys could do twenty minutes with a dead dog.:D
     
    #58     Jun 14, 2004
  9. Turok

    Turok

    ROFLAO!!!!

    It's a slow day for ET...even here in chat apparently.

    JB
     
    #59     Jun 14, 2004
  10. Thats true when you have someone like Optional777 who
    thinks he is the SOLE authority on the definition of every word
    on the planet, and further thinks he KNOWS exactly what
    newspaper writers MEANT when they wrote something as if
    he can read their minds :p

    Sorry 777, but there ARE multiple valid meanings to words,
    and you have NO authority to claim WHICH meaning
    applies in THIS case, since you CANT read the newspaper
    writers minds, and you cant read mine either.

    My position stands.... the core church/separation issue was NOT addressed. Period.
    It was dodged, sidestepped, avoided, call it whatever you want,
    im not interested in another silly semantic war with a guy
    who thinks he can speak to god and read minds :D


    peace

    axeman


     
    #60     Jun 14, 2004