Supply & Demand + Price Action

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by aberz, Jan 22, 2023.

  1. easymon1

    easymon1

    Why not? What support is there for the theory that Volume is required to enable this strategy?
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    Here are a couple of links to extended discussions on this topic of Volume in trading.
    The myth of volume as a leading indicator of price direction...
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-leading-indicator-of-price-direction.360779/

    Help me understand volume/price relationship
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/help-me-understand-volume-price-relationship.364321/
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2023
    #21     Jan 22, 2023
  2. easymon1

    easymon1

    Hey, aberz, I have a question.
    Have you looked into the possibility of including Volume in your method?
    What is your conclusion?
     
    #22     Jan 22, 2023
  3. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    I don't use VWAP/VWAP-ish indicators.

    One tool I use, available on many platforms, is POCs and NPOCs ((Naked) Point of Control).
    For me, POC/NPOC levels are excellent for targets and stops within a current "trend".
    Of course, "trend" is something that is based on the type of trading and type of chart being used.
     
    #23     Jan 22, 2023
  4. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    Another tool I use is something called Prorated Volume.

    With PRV, you can determine an expectation of volume for an entire time-based bar within the first few seconds or minutes of the bar forming. On the inverse, armed with a PRV expectation, you gain "sight" of increasing or decreasing volume, again, way before the bar is completely formed.

    As I mentioned...
    Price can go up, price can go down, volume can increase, volume can decrease.
    The work is to study those possible combinations and see what works for YOUR personality and style of trading. No volume = no price discovery.
     
    #24     Jan 22, 2023
  5. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Well unless you are also looking at UpVolume% vs DnVol% (as is shown for $SPX daily) in blue and red histogram at bottom above total volume in black you still don't have total price discovery:-
    ! SPX UpDnVol.png
     
    #25     Jan 22, 2023
  6. easymon1

    easymon1

    Aberz, can you mark up the S/D zones on Suntrader's chart?
     
    #26     Jan 22, 2023
  7. aberz

    aberz

    I get that you already have a ton of information that you use in trading so when I'm explaining how I trade - you will challenge it but it's not my job to convince you that this works the best in the market. Each their own. Good luck with your indicators.
     
    #27     Jan 23, 2023
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  8. aberz

    aberz

    I've taught over 50 traders so far single handedly and def make more than you and your family put together in profits ;) I have enough trading experience to preach because I know what works in the market. Cheers
     
    #28     Jan 23, 2023
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Take your word for it, huh?

    You and millions billions of others on the net.
     
    #29     Jan 23, 2023
  10. smallfil

    smallfil

    There is something to be said with support and resistance zones as they tend to repeat. Of course, you cannot use it by itself. Price action, trends, parabolic moves, candlesticks combined with support and resistance gives you confidence to take trade setups as they occur. Studying Oliver Kell and Kristian Kullamagi (I hope I got his name right), both use breakouts to get into trades. Never traded breakouts before. Now, I know to pay attention.
     
    #30     Jan 23, 2023
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