Supplement retirement income

Discussion in 'Options' started by aplino, Dec 30, 2020.

  1. aplino

    aplino

    Anybody is using the wheel? I am doing it very lightly and it seems to be a minimum stress trading strategy. Any ideas of how to maximize efficiency? (Best stocks to trade, entry points, searches, tracking software, relevant calculators or spreadsheets)
     
    #81     Feb 2, 2021
  2. caroy

    caroy

    I've used the wheel. I like entering with a ratio spread as you get a larger pop when assigned. No real strict rules I follow. I use weekly options when available. I like doing these on stocks under $10.
     
    #82     Feb 2, 2021
  3. aplino

    aplino

    I am doing it with stocks I am comfortable to hold if assigned. Do you use any specific searches or calculators?
     
    #83     Feb 2, 2021
  4. caroy

    caroy

    Can't say i do. i don't trade them as much now. just keep a few going. i'm trading mostly weekly butterflies at this point.
     
    #84     Feb 3, 2021
  5. aplino

    aplino

    I am revisiting the Wheel strategy.

    I have $200,000 invested on SPY. If I use the WHEEL approach, selling cash secured puts at 15-20 delta and covert calls if assigned, I will have ideally a 20% return a year. By turning the capital 3 times a week, SPY has 3 expirations a week, I will have the compounding effect to my favor and since I would use low delta low risk and low time exposure. In addition, I will probably be out of the market the night after expiration, farther reducing my risk exposure.

    It looks that I would have a higher return this way than buy and hold, without any additional risk. It seems that I would reduce my risk in the expense of missing explosive moves to the upside.


    Am I missing anything? Doesn't that beat by and hold SPY?
     
    #85     Feb 6, 2021
  6. caroy

    caroy

    Makes sense. Someone else has a thread on doing this weekly. They are having a good year. I'm toying with doing this starting in a couple months but plan to do it using a ratio spread to enter on the put side. Collect a smaller premium but when it breaks and am assigned go in with a larger profit. Can't decide if I want to do it in SPY or IWM. I hadn't thought of the fact that SPY gives you more expirations. Looking forward to seeing how it goes.
     
    #86     Feb 6, 2021
  7. Cabin111

    Cabin111

    Trading halt for whatever reason (9-11 type thing)...Market reopens 20% lower. Are you covered?? One leg got filled...The other didn't.
     
    #87     Feb 6, 2021
  8. For $500 you can have the details:
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    Except:

    I will only disclose the details iff and only if 1000 retail suck^H^H^H^Hcustomers like you pay for it at the same time.
     
    #88     Feb 6, 2021
  9. caroy

    caroy

    good question. I mean most long term investors aren't really covered they just plan to ride it back. Just finished a book this morning on hedging. Called for one of three strategies, buying vix calls, garbage puts, or spreads on OTM SPY PYX etc. I don't know. If I'm running the wheel on SPY maybe I look at carrying an ongoing hedge relative to size for the black swan. Or say fuck it i'm in it long term on this part of the strategy anyway.
     
    #89     Feb 6, 2021
  10. In other words I'm on my way to selling my strategy for at least $500k to stupid retail if nothing better comes along.

    Worth $500B overall so you would be stupid not to buy it. And keep it confidential.
     
    #90     Feb 6, 2021