darkhorse must soon depart for a time, but first this: your intellectual father Kant would be proud, young atheist jedi his categoriocentric predicament you embrace. but he who chooses blindness others' vision cannot see, mmm? purpose not, emotion not, value not- beware the praying mantis Nothing in your passion you defend her, in her emptiness she devours you we speak as if words had meaning, hmm? as if thoughts had value? go now, save your strength! it is needed to fight the black hole of zero you must give all to the nothing if nothing is your cause
wow darkhorse that is awesome. Now promise you'll only depart for a time otherwise this Jedi will scweem and scweem and scweem until I'm sssick if you don't answer me 1st must come God given thought ...THEN God given reason right ? The reason I ask is I've just had a thought Oh Master !!
'i shall return.' in the meantime feel free to lay out all those little thought cookies and i will come munch on 'em in due course.
........errr just a mo though In order for me to lay my thought before you I need to know 1st comes God given thought 2nd that enables God given reason no silly traps/tricks, I just want to gell some thoughts now on the topic
please don't be honoredâ¦I'm even more uncomfortable w/ undue praise than undue criticismâ¦. Everything is ultimately from God. He created reality ex nihilo, from nothing, and so the basic structure of reality reflects his attributes. We have logic, reason and symmetry because the creator is ultimately logicalâ¦we have beauty because he is beautifulâ¦.creativity because he is creativeâ¦power because He is powerfulâ¦and so on and so forth. God is the cynosure, the infinite starting point, the source of all. His fingerprints are everywhere because reality is His design. Man was made in the image of God- that is, we reflect His attributes, though on an infinitely smaller scale of course. In a sense, man is able to 'think God's thoughts after Him'- but only to a limited degree, with the limits imposed by our fragile structures and tiny minds. Ugliness and pain are brought about by man's rebellion against his telos- his natural design, his purpose and function of glorifying the creator. Because man is made in God's image, man has the ability to destroy and cause pain when he fights the reason for which he draws breath. Man has the ability to do evil because man can challenge his telos, turn his natural will against its revealed purpose. But partial rebellion of men and angels is part of the grand design too, because with no struggle there is no glory in overcoming, with no challenge there is no ultimate triumph. Everyone exists for the ultimate purpose of serving God and ultimately glorifying Him- whether they like it or not, whether they know it or not, whether they accept it or not. His grand design is more breathtaking than the most elegant solutions of science, more perfect than the most precise equation, more beautiful than the cosmos, more striking than the most heartrending images of beauty we can conceive. SO: yes, logic and reason ultimately come from God because ALL things come from God. Evil is simply the result of natural wills bucking the trend with God's consent for the purpose of the divine plan. He is the first mover, the creator and sustainer. Without Him there would be no logic, no reason, no thoughts, no existence, no anything. He rules with an iron hand in a velvet glove, at times tender, at times ruthless, always fully in control. Those who rebel against him only do so because He wishes it so. The natural will fancies itself strong but crumbles in the face of true power. Man's intellect, man's willpower, man's ability to resist are like a whiff of smoke in the face of a tornado. We aren't contenders, we aren't even grains of sand. Reason is a divine gift. If He wants you, you will be drawn to Him. If you are drawn to Him, you will come. LOL there's my long answer Stu, with plenty of context to precede it. And now I really have to get off this computer and get fixed up for our lil' vacation. See you cats in a few days. Outie for realz.
no, i don't think so. as you know, velocity is a relative thing. you might be standing still relative to your computer, but at the same time you are hurtling along at ridiculous speeds relative to most astral bodies out there. apparently, what matters from the time dilatation aspect, is the velocity relative to the gravitational centre of the universe. also note that, in order for the time dilatation to kick in, the speed must be very close to the speed of light. on the other hand, velocities of macro-objects in the universe, relative to its centre, should be in the same order of magnitude than the rate of its expansion. to the best of my knowledge, the rate of expansion (save the "inflationary epoch" that only lasted for a fraciton of a fraction of a nanosecond) has always been really modest, compared to the speed of light. - jaan