Your very welcome... It is an excellent translation of the text... Wish you all the luck along your journey... PEACE and good trading, Commisso
Surfer: I gladly admit that God holds ultimate responsibility for all events that happen within creation. 'The buck stops with God' means the full dollar, not 99 cents. Even if God does not have direct responsibility, he has passive responsibility. Like a lifeguard who could stop someone from drowning but chooses not to. He did not cause the drowning, but he could have stopped it. There IS a clear distinction between authorship and responsibility (if i create light and then place an object in front of that light, did i create darkness or did the object create darkness or neither), though responsibility is the clear divisive issue. I was drawing up to that distinction but was cut off by someone impatient.... And guess what: God does not deny responsibility in any way shape or form. In fact, he embraces total responsibility with no bones, no ifs ands or buts. The bible clearly and explicitly states that God is 100% sovereign and has 100% control over all things past, present and future. God does not shy away from His own sovereignty. The ONLY reason that SOME Christians try to take responsibility away from God is because they have caved in to the sniping of the world and distorted their theology in an effort to make it more palatable. In doing so, they have only watered down the truth and caused intractable problems embedded in their view. This is precisely where the division between Calvinists and Arminians arose a few centuries ago. God's iron hand over all good AND all evil was always understood, that all things work for His good purpose and that if we don't like the short term, tough. But after getting a lot of rotten eggs thrown at them around the time of the renaissance, Arminius and his followers decided they could not handle a God 'mean' enough to allow for evil, so they tried to absolve him of responsibility and thus started the bogus movement that you cite. This is bad theology practiced by a portion of Christians, not a mark on the true teachings of Christianity itself. True understanding does not deny God's sovereignty over all creation. It recognizes that God is God whether we like it or not, and that his ultimate answer to pain is the same as the one he gave job, or the one he gave in romans: 'I have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will harden whom I will harden.' Ack! That's so harsh, that's so mean! That's reality. God is God. p.s. I really was trying to answer your authorship question, Commisso, as I hope you can now see. As you know, context is important and I was trying to build some.
will this do it? are we over the top? Question for my pal Darkhorse...and other creationists Did you ever read 2001 (A Space Odyssey)? Or if not...did you see the movie? If you saw the movie, but did not read the book, what is your (brief) interpretation of the story? If you read the book, how did you feel about it? PS: The Super Secret to Successful Trading will soon be revealed...I had a busy weekend and didn't get to it, but working on it now. RS7
by the way surfer, evil does not exist independently of good because evil is simply diminished or twisted good it is a concept hinged on another concept, in the way that darkness is the absence of light p.s. here ya go rs7 triple digits my complements
A or B Dark??? I do not understand why there needs to be all this context (noise)... Why can't you just answer my straight foward question with a straight foward answer??? anyway as I said before with my very first post on this thread... Faith is not to be conceptualized and to be argued about on a message board... Words and logic WILL ALWAYS MISS THE POINT! This is my last post on the thread and I would just like to thank everybody... for I really enjoyed it... PEACE TO EVERYBODY COMMISSO
if you consider context to be noise then we really are speaking different languages bro...but that's cool, we are in different camps and that's how it was meant to be for the moment...i hope our disagreement does not preclude continued friendship p.s. predicting when this thread will finally end has been like trying to pick a bottom or a top....
ALRIGHT!!!! Dark, I can always count on you to not be at a loss for words Very fitting you put us over the top.... Wish we could rename the thread in your honor....it really has become yours! My hat, yalmuka, skull cap, crown, that pointy thing the pope and bishops wear, and my tiara are all off to you
This thread and your beliefs have absolutely no bearing on friendship... You are a very intelligent chap and I look foward to future discussions and sucking up a lot what you have to say... I wish you all the luck in the world DARK !!! PEACE and good trading, Commisso PS; You still have not answered A or B???