successful traders: did you have a mentor?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by dv4632, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. Success breeds on ET , sign me up!!!!!
     
    #21     Nov 11, 2012
  2. Ahh, if it was only that simple. Just because you may know what not to do, does not mean that you can simply do the opposite and be successful.

    It is truly a singular path that we must each take alone, hopefully with guiding nudges along the way.

    Once you get the mechanics of trading in order then the whole new world of self mastery comes into play, it's definitely a journey.
     
    #22     Nov 11, 2012
  3. jnbadger

    jnbadger

    I've actually had some pretty amazing advice from some guys on this board though private messaging. You may be surprised at how helpful the rock stars of the past will be. They're still around.

    But my programmer is also amazing. I'll come up with an idea, and he''ll take it ten steps further. It's nice to have smart guys on your side.

    :)
     
    #23     Nov 11, 2012
  4. capebay23

    capebay23

    Had a mentor for almost two years. No doubt I wouldn't be where i am now without his help. I would share who I used except would most likely be attacked as being a shill. Made small profit in first year and much better the second year. Discipline has been the only road block for me to six figures a year. My goal is to be there within 4 years.

    Bottom line.... Find a good mentor if you want to save a lot of money, time, and pain.
     
    #24     Nov 11, 2012
  5. I like to remark now and then; "there's lots of way to get to NYC" (from southern ct)

    I believe that a mentor can really help if said person is clearly legit. I had a person who I was lucky enough to connect with and offered some pathways. It was me being a pain in the ass but I wore him down enough to get me going. Because of that I now and then I selectively give back; although you must also realize this can be a business like any other and u can't give away a lot if u are still trading.
     
    #25     Nov 11, 2012
  6. jnbadger

    jnbadger

    I agree. I won't share what I've learned, because that would be nothing less than a slap in the face to those who have helped me. And these guys would never EVER sell their advice. They're too good for that.
     
    #26     Nov 11, 2012
  7. Handle123

    Handle123

    WOW, where do I start, I have paid out for 4-5 figures for seminars and then hounded to death those giving the seminars for at least a year. I have had several mentors, most no one ever heard about except Toby Crabel back in 1989, now I think back he was very much like many of today's of huge upfront money and $300 bucks a month, I never took away much from him as I couldn't get anywhere near the stats he had. The last mentor I had took away more from me than other way around and I had to pay for it. But for what he did show me, was worth a piece of the puzzle.

    I don't believe one ever learns 100% from one person, but I think even the ones that don't offer much can spark ideas that can develop into one's trading plan.

    Trading comes down to unbelieveable amount of hours of working on yourself, to overcome your flaws, THEN your trading plan with much more working on oneself. You simply can't get instruction on relearning disipline, that has to be changed by yourself.

    One can have the Holy Grail in your lap, but if you lack disipline, truly becomes worthless.
     
    #27     Nov 11, 2012
  8. #28     Nov 12, 2012
  9. bone

    bone

    One thing that open outcry pit trading was very good at was providing mentoring opportunities. It was understood and encouraged and it was a point of pride for a successful trader to do a bit of mentoring - especially for his own clerks.

    Electronic trading is very difficult because these days most of the successful traders go independent and solo. If they are in an arcade atmosphere they are usually very guarded and paranoid.

    The earlier electronic trading firms provided some mentoring opportunities if the firm was structured in a communal atmosphere and you could find a successful trader willing to share. The training programs varied considerably in terms of quality and useful applicable information. The fact of the matter is that electronic trading firms were ( and are ) set up to lose modest amounts of capital on a large population of candidates, rotate them through quickly and rapidly fire most of them, and then try to hang on to the much smaller population of successful traders by any means possible. There comes a point in time where the successful firm trader realizes that he is subsidizing alot of other traders and overhead - so then he bolts at the first contractual opportunity. His personal best interest was not truly in the best interest of the firm - despite the BS and promises and fake adulation coming from the principals.

    My long and belabored point being - finding a mentor these days is an extremely challenging task.
     
    #29     Nov 12, 2012
  10. Klemen

    Klemen

    I think mentor is helpful just in a very beginning... Later on you gotta do it yourself...
     
    #30     Nov 13, 2012