Subliminal/hypnosis programming for trading

Discussion in 'Educational Resources' started by aspenboy, Oct 11, 2006.

  1. Am utilizing a CD by Robert Krausz-featured in the book Market Wizards. He is a certified hypnotist.
    I tend to feel there is some truth to our subconscious having a huge effect(biases,fears,unresolved conflicts,etc..) on our trading results.
    Anybody have any experience in this realm and/or recommendations re trading related. Not Tony Robbins ,etc...
    Or anything emotional programming for trading. It appears I can use some work here...:) Thx.
  2. bighog

    bighog Guest

    Ok, try this:

    Take a walk down Michigan Avenue on the North side of Chicago and walk behind a beauty in a silk dress with skimpy panties on.

    Ok, ok, related to trading, well think of trading your soul for what you are thinking as the lady gets a green light and works her stuff crossing the street. best of luck......:cool: :cool: :cool:
  3. jcmonger


    Hi, Charles Faulkner did some stuff on NLP. Neuro-Linguistic Programming. I got some tapes from Nightingale Conant. I liked it. It's allot of attitude and how you think/look at things. Sort of "feel good" stuff but I thought it was more useful than Robbins's stuff.

  4. There are a few other subliminal / programming trading stuff out there:

    Ruth Roosevelt
    John Parada ( -- available on eBay
    Jake Bernstein
  5. Jake Bernstein? Jake Bernstein can't trade. Why not first ask him if his product "offerings" helped him before spending your own money on it?

    There's One Born Every Minute By William Green
    "I'M TEACHING YOU SOMETHING that I know works," says Jake Bernstein. "It's real simple." Bernstein, 51, is in a Washington, D.C. hotel meeting room mesmerizing an audience of aspiring futures traders. Want to make a killing trading futures? All you need to know, says Bernstein, is that many seasonal price patterns occur year after year. Buy live hog futures on Oct. 30 and sell on Nov. 27. That's a trade that would have made you money almost every year in recent decades, he claims. Bet on the S&P 500 March contract to rise from Jan. 12 through Jan. 18. For 15 years, he says, this trade was a winner 93% of the time. Does anyone believe his nonsense? Unfortunately, yes. Intoxicated by the promise of easy money, audience members line up to buy Bernstein's products, among them his books, with titles like The Seasonal Trader's Bible and The Best of Bernstein: A Treasure Chest of Jake Bernstein's Market Wisdom. His monthly newsletter costs $400 annually; his weekly newsletter costs $895 a year. He sells three other newsletters, plus video courses and a CD-ROM ($695) that lists 60,000 seasonal trades. He offers telephone hot lines and charges up to $2,500 per person for his two-day seminars. Yes, you can fool some of the people all of the time. Commodity Traders Consumer Report, a respected futures publication, tracks the trades Bernstein recommends in his $895 flagship newsletter. If you had acted on these weekly tips from 1988 through 1992, you would have lost money for five consecutive years (assuming typical transaction costs). Let's say you set up a $20,000 trading account in 1992 and executed the newsletter's recommended trades for that year. Your account would have been wiped out. In 1996 you would have lost 95% of a $20,000 account. Bernstein's response: There are always losing periods. He professes to be an expert on the psychology of trading. His qualifications? In registering with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, the Montreal-raised Bernstein wrote that he held a master's degree in psychology from Chicago's Roosevelt University. In fact, he never completed his master's studies. In the 1980s Bernstein hooked up with an outfit called Robbins Trading and helped to manage futures accounts for investors. James Roemer, who comanaged money with Bernstein, says: Jake is brilliant, but he can't manage money to save his life. . . . He'd get scared, buy at highs and sell at lows. . . . He kept losing money. Bernstein found an easier way to get rich. Instead of just trading futures he would trade on investor gullibility. In 1996 he starred in an infomercial that has aired on nearly 400 TV stations. It hypes a video course ($180) called Trade Your Way to Riches. In it a farmer named Harold Henkel tells viewers how well Bernstein's approach has worked for him. Henkel, however, now admits that he lost money trading in 1996 and 1997 while using Bernstein's products. On his Web site Bernstein offers to set up customers with his personal brokers at Fox Investments, a division of the Chicago brokerage firm Rosenthal Collins Group. Suppose you take Bernstein's recommendation and set up an account at Fox with $5,000, the minimum that Bernstein says you need to become a trader. Your commissions would be $60 to $80 per trade, about three times more than savvy retail customers pay. Bernstein's weekly newsletter offered 195 recommended trades last year. At that rate, a small trader's commissions alone might amount to more than double his or her original investment. Needless to say, Bernstein receives a slice of the brokerage's commissions. A Fox broker appeared in Bernstein's infomercial, touting his seasonal trading approach. Says Bernstein: There's no arguing with history. Say we: Where are the regulators when you need them? W.G.

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  6. NLP has been referred to as the "scientology of achievement." If you want something real, with far less hype and more value, consider the following:

    You're welcome.
  7. dchang0


    These books are more general than specific but apply wonderfully to trading psychology:

    "Deep Survival," by Gonzales.
    "Learned Optimism," by Seligman.

    What you'll gain from these books is the foundation of successful trading psychology (and survival and sports and a successful life in general). From there, you can use more specific tools such as hypnosis, NLP, etc., to address more specific obstacles.

    After reading Seligman's book, I realized that even though I was using "positive self-explanatory statements," I wasn't addressing the important overarching characteristics of those positive statements such as: how long they last (permanence), how far they reach (pervasiveness), and how much they relate to me (personal).

    As an analogy, if NLP is a specific diet (a tool to lose weight) like the South Beach Diet, what Gonzales and Seligman teach you is how to get yourself to stay on that diet, day in and day out (motivation to use the tool over and over again, even in the face of inconsistent outcomes in using that tool).
  8. Appreciate all the feedback and suggestions. If I have the discipline(?) I think Krausczs CD will help. Mark Douglas's Zone book was pretty helpful too;I feel like I need to refer back to key parts(uncertainty) often and digest what he is saying.
    The Learned Optimism book sounds very good also. My emotional detachment is improving;a difficult path for a quite conservative,analytical like myself.
    My best wishes for success to all...
  9. Yes, I would add A Guide to Rational Living also.