Stunts Backfire on Ron DeSantis

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Sep 18, 2022.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    They can bitch and whine all they want.US law allows them to be here until their cases are settled in court.
     
    #61     Sep 20, 2022
  2. Not crazy, it is just you don't know constitutional law but most Americans don't so I wont hold it against you haha.

    Putting this case aside for a second the 14th amendment reads:

    No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    14th amendment applies to all people in those highlighted clauses, not just citizens.
     
    #62     Sep 20, 2022
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    So they are floating in the grey waste of what they call "legal purgatory". They are neither legal nor illegal.

    Like Schrodinger's cat. Therefore, we are both wrong.
     
    #63     Sep 20, 2022
  4. Sprout

    Sprout

    You are just parroting dog whistle topics. Illegal immigrants do not have access to social services simply due to the fact that they do not have social security numbers. Perhaps a minority can game the system through fraudulent numbers, but then they are just paying into a system where they cannot ever claim a benefit.

    Do you actually think that someone here illegally would go to a government building, get interviewed by a government agent to claim food stamps?
     
    #64     Sep 20, 2022
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    Ahh geez, here we go. My argument to you on that is that the sentences, as written, apply only to citizens. The founding fathers screwed up by not specifically saying "citizens" in every part of the paragraph. It's like the 2A argument about People and Militia.

    I cry uncle man, for that discussion would take more pages than I have the energy for.
     
    #65     Sep 20, 2022
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    False.There are here legally until their cases are settled in court.
     
    #66     Sep 20, 2022
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    If they are here legally, why do they not have social security numbers, as @Sprout suggests?
     
    #67     Sep 20, 2022
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Not having a SS # does not mean you are here illegally.They are here legally until their cases are settled in court.
     
    #68     Sep 20, 2022
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    All these Christian Conservatives should be asking themselves what would Jesus do.

    Christian Conservatives are the most Unchristian people on the planet.
     
    #69     Sep 20, 2022
  10. Good1

    Good1

    Because De Saintes said they were going to the most posh immigration sanctuary in the world. Turns out Marthas Vineyard is the second most posh immigration sanctuary in the world, so they were lured, and lied to. There were jobs to be had on the island but instead they were all imprisoned on a military base back on the mainland. All but one. Seems that one of the immigrants escaped deportation from Marthas Vineyard and somehow found the most caring and hospitable place to stay:

     
    #70     Sep 21, 2022