Study says Daytrading for a living is virtually impossible.

Discussion in 'Trading' started by traderslair, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. One study can't testify for real life. People make a living from day trading and it's a fact.
     
    #191     Sep 15, 2019
  2. excrypto

    excrypto

    Okay okay. Now do a study with equities day traders on US stocks with >100IQ that put away ample money to learn and quit their jobs to practice and study and put in more than a year and we're driven to succeed.
     
    #192     Sep 15, 2019
  3. excrypto

    excrypto

    interested in what you traded to reach that #
     
    #193     Sep 15, 2019
  4. Trading is a bit like being a magician.

    Magicians appear to be able to do the impossible. You might dream up all sort of ways they achieve what they do.

    When you meet a magician and they start to tell you how their tricks work, the reality is a lot less magical than you first thought.

    So - you see in trading - all these ads for 90% win rates, hidden magical price levels to give you massive returns. That's people selling the magic.

    Then you go see a successful prop trader with a 50% win rate - it all seems a bit disappointing...
     
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    #194     Sep 15, 2019
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  5. bbpp

    bbpp

    The worst retail traders are a lot worse than the worst pro traders.
    The best retail traders are a lot better than the best pro traders.
     
    #195     Sep 15, 2019
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  6. themickey

    themickey

    L.p.
    Is that because there are more retail traders?
    DC current is more lethal than AC current, but AC kills more people - see the logic?
     
    #196     Sep 15, 2019
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  7. bbpp

    bbpp

    "Is that because there are more retail traders?"

    No, although there are more retail traders, but pro traders have advantage in accessing better and faster information and better trading equipment, that will more than offset it.

    It is because pro traders are not allowed to take big risk, and since they are not allowed to do so, they lack experiences in making exceptional high returns, lack experiences in dealing with high risk situation.
     
    #197     Sep 15, 2019
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  8. Mostly spot currencies and index futures.

     
    #198     Sep 15, 2019
  9. I have yet to find an Economist (PhD or otherwise) who actually understands the REAL economy of the modern world, modern money, derivatives or Central Banks. They are stuck in their ANCIENT theories of supply & demand, and money being printed ONLY when certain checks and balances are fulfilled on some old list that the bankers don't even use anymore.
     
    #199     Sep 15, 2019
  10. Real Money

    Real Money

    There are some. Roubini is ok. I like the Australian Steve Keen. Another is Robert Shiller and Micheal Hudson. Economics is inherently political. This fact is inescapable. The discussion is tiptoeing around politically sensitive issues, the creation of money being one of them.

    The real great economists are dead.

    John Maynard Kaynes was a boss. He traded foreign currencies and ran businesses. Held office in high ranking government offices. Read his story if you think economists are fools.
     
    #200     Sep 15, 2019