Study reports mutant coronavirus

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  1. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    That's really rich coming from you...
     
    #11     May 5, 2020
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    That indicates to me you had the Covid. I had a nasty flu that was outside the "normal" flu-like symptoms I would normally have, back in February. And I had the flu shot back around Thanksgiving.

    I keep seeing report after report from online and people I know that have said the same thing... They came down with some nasty bug out of nowhere that was intense and unlike anything they had ever had. Not a "normal flu".

    I bet your antibody tests would be positive.
     
    #12     May 5, 2020
  3. d08

    d08

    Come to think of it, it was also in February. I read that during the early stages, everything gets lumped into "flu" category at hospitals if the death numbers are not insanely high.
     
    #13     May 5, 2020
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  4. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Everything gets lumped into Covid these days, strange that.

    BBC ( anti all this but not allowed to be ) snuck in, aged <75 only 4 people in 100,000 have died so far. So all those 20year olds that are Scared are just muppets! ( about 2000people so far from the 50mil, so nothing )
     
    #14     May 5, 2020
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  5. Antibody tests are showing that a strain was in Chicago in December.
     
    #15     May 5, 2020
  6. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Read, a worse variant aswell ?? might explain why NYC is so bad ??

    Or be BS, to scare people, lots of that around.
     
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    #16     May 5, 2020
  7. apdxyk

    apdxyk

    Yes, the 'news' about strains or no strains has been making recycling motions for a couple of months now.
    Here is a better wacky piece for ya'll:



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    #17     May 5, 2020
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  8. Edmond

    Edmond


    I experienced the same thing during the first week of Jan 2018. I felt so horribly bad death would be welcomed. Since then I never go into stores or restaurants Dec, Jan and Feb. and I avoid people.
     
    #18     May 5, 2020
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  9. Trader200K

    Trader200K

    Dec28-31 for me. 103 fever ... too weak to walk. Collapsed, passed out 1am on the bathroom floor. Came to at 5pm. Took me 9 weeks to be able to get enough breath to work outside. Wife passed out too. Son caught it. The most awful thing we ever had. I would call it evil.
     
    #19     May 5, 2020
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  10. themickey

    themickey

    Flu season which struck down 310,000 Australians 'worst on record' due to early outbreaks
    Posted 11 February 2020
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02...blame-for-worst-flu-season-on-record/11949320
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    2019 saw the highest number of flu cases on record in Australia and 2020 could be worse.(Pixabay)

    Researchers are warning little can be done to prevent future severe flu seasons, if a pattern of prolonged, year-round outbreaks continue.

    Key points:
    • More than 310,000 people presented to Australian health services with influenza in 2019, marking the country's worst flu season on record
    • Researchers say that it was one of the most successful vaccination years to date but early outbreaks occurred before vaccines were given out
    • With continued early outbreaks, 2020 could be similar
    Last year, Australia experienced its worst flu season on record, with more than 310,000 people presenting to hospital and health services nationwide.

    The figure is seven times greater than Australia's previous 18-year average.

    'Happens once every 10 years'
    World Health Organisation (WHO) influenza researcher, Ian Barr, said such aggressive seasons were generally a "one-in-every-10-year occurrence", but early flu outbreaks had seen Australia go through two in just three years.

    He said it is an issue that is hard to predict and one difficult to address with vaccines.

    "Definitely in terms of influenza seasons 2019 was the biggest Australia has had … it was very unusual," Dr Barr said.

    "I think one of the big reasons it was a such a severe season was that in most states, it was very prolonged.

    "In Queensland it was reasonably long, but then in Victoria, Tasmania and, to a lesser extent, New South Wales, it was a very prolonged season which started much earlier than we would normally expect to see such high intensity activity.
    "It lasted right through 'til October."

    According to Dr Barr, last year's peak occurred almost two months earlier than normal and researchers have found it difficult to determine the cause.

    He believes international travellers played a significant role, but said other factors were also at play.

    "The whole business of influenza is a numbers game, so if you get enough people coming back to Australia with infections from overseas, that can happen," Dr Barr said.

    "We put it down to higher tourist numbers, more Australians travelling overseas, climate conditions.

    "But we actually believe that a number of last year's cases originated from some of the large outbreaks in the Northern Territory, which led to small outbreaks in the southern states — Queensland included.

    "It's most likely a combination of those factors … which is just plain unlucky."

    Hospital beds full and staff sick
    Queensland Health Minister, Stephen Miles, said the intense season put a major strain on hospital and health services nationwide, which would have to incorporate early outbreaks into future planning.

    "Certainly the levels we saw, it took a very high toll on the community and the health system," he said.

    "We had a record number of summer cases and that elongated the impact on our hospitals through more months of the year, as well as many of our own staff ended up catching the flu.

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    Health Minister Steven Miles said hospitals and staff found it difficult to cope with last years flu season, due to it beginning earlier than normal.(AAP: Dave Hunt)
    "That itself has an impact on our ability to cover rosters and increase staffing when we really need to, it makes the job of running hospitals even harder."

    According to Mr Miles, early preparation had aimed to deal with influxes in patients, but not for seasons which extend for nearly half the year.

    "Every year we have a winter bed strategy that's designed to deal with that, but the peak last year we had to bring it forward substantially," he said.

    "There's a lot of mysteries still about the flu and that's why we have a lot of people allocated to researching and working on it.

    "Every year the virus is different and the way it impacts us is different, we do our best to predict it.

    "It just demonstrates how serious a virus the flu is and how important it is to get vaccinated and stop it spreading even more."

    But WHO's Dr Barr said he does not believe vaccinations would have much impact where early outbreaks of influenza are concerned, stating 2019 was one of their most successful vaccination years to date.

    "I wouldn't say the vaccine had too much of an impact on that [severe season last year], the season was already in the starter gates and running before most vaccines were even given out," he said.

    "Given the significant number of cases in March and April — the vaccine isn't even available during that time, and it normally takes a couple of weeks after being vaccinated to reach peak immunity.

    "I wouldn't say this was a vaccine issue."

    Longer lasting vaccines a long term solution
    According to Dr Barr, vaccines are created based on strains circulating in the northern hemisphere, which meant it would be difficult to bring forward a release date in Australia.

    He said current vaccines only last three to six months, so early immunisation would also mean they may not last through the peak months of July and August.
    "You could bring it forward slightly and make some vaccines available a bit earlier, but early to late March, that's really about the best you could do," he said.

    "If we could have some early vaccines available, especially in certain states, it may help out slightly.

    "But perhaps there's also some learning opportunities in terms of having longer lasting vaccines, we're always trying to be better.

    "There's a lot of work and money being invested in trying to improve influenza vaccines, we're taking a number of different approaches, but these things take time."

    While 2019 saw the highest number of influenza cases across the country, 2017 still holds the record for the highest number of flu-related deaths, with over 1,100 cases.

    Last year there were over 900 influenza linked deaths in Australia.

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