Strongest trending markets?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by AshanD, Feb 25, 2006.

  1. Hi Kelly,

    The first attachment I posted...

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=992956

    Russell 2000 Index of the ER2 Emini Futures

    Second attachment I posted...

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=992970

    Currency U.S. Dollar/Canadian Dollar (USDCAD)

    Third attachment I posted...

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=992994

    DAX Index of the Eurex DAX Derivative

    Hi AshanD,

    Thanks for the clarification.

    All markets trend and you can easily manipulate the image of a trend simply via changing the interval setting.

    For example...a trader that uses the 5min chart interval may see noise or conjestion on a 2 day chart of 5min intervals.

    Whereas a trader that uses the daily chart interval may see a strong trend via the same trading instrument or vice versa.

    Therefore, the issue is if your a trend trader...are there current trends in the markets you have access to and interested in trading.

    In addition, will you be able to exploit that trend if it continues.

    Further, you need to be very careful about trying to apply that statement...

    ...once they establish an up or down trend they tend to continue that way rather than reverse...

    That statement will not hold up in water if your late to the show sort'uv speak when the trend is about to change via either going into a congestion period or reverse into a new trend in the opposite direction.

    Also, via your above quote, if you can figure out what prompts institutional traders to enter or exit their long term positions...

    (adding to what cnms2 said)

    You'll be many steps ahead of most retail speculators and the big boys don't care if you tag along sort'uv speak.

    I guess that's why I've been seeing more retail traders here at EliteTrader.com questioning other ET members that have said they currently work for or have in the past at an instituition firm...

    Trying to gather any kind'uv information that could help them avoid entering trends during periods of when games are being played (easily shakes you out of the trade position) the most.

    P.S. I also never heard of the Oslo Børs Benchmark Index.

    Regardless to the chart interval...its parabolic trends like this that brings people to the markets.

    Mark
    (a.k.a. NihabaAshi) Japanese Candlestick term
     
    #21     Feb 27, 2006
  2. im a beginner at all this, but i think its fair to say, oil will always be a big mover.

    - nate
     
    #22     Feb 27, 2006
  3. Thanks for the thread (and ET), it's been very helpful in terms of exposing me to other markets than just the US Financials.

    Just remember that each market has its own characteristics (point spread, trendiness/non-trediness, slippage, gappage, etc.) and you have to learn the intricacies of the market before you can earn money in it.

    Best of Luck,

    James
     
    #23     Feb 27, 2006
  4. acrary

    acrary

    Trendiness Report starting Jan. 2003 ending Dec. 2005
    at least 40 days in the trend

    1. Feeder Cattle
    2. Short Sterling
    3. Eurodollars
    4. Corn
    5. Soybean Meal
    6. Soybeans
    7. Unleaded Gas
    8. Fed Funds
    9. Live Cattle
    10. T-notes
    11. Heating Oil #2
    12. T-bonds
    13. Crude Oil
    14. Coffee
     
    #24     Feb 27, 2006
  5. acrary

    acrary

    And here's just 2005

    Trendiness Report starting Jan. 2005 ending Dec. 2005
    at least 40 days in the trend

    1. Nikkei Index
    2. CRB Futures
    3. Pork Bellies
    4. Copper
    5. Dax Index
    6. Soybean Meal
    7. Feeder Cattle
    8. FTSE 100 Index
    9. Short Sterling
     
    #25     Feb 27, 2006
  6. Toad

    Toad

    I am surprised there is no gold or silver on either of your lists. Or what about Palladium? Those markets have trended very nicely the last couple of years.
     
    #26     Feb 27, 2006
  7. acrary

    acrary

    They show up in the shorter duration trends. Remember, this only includes 2005. A trend starting in 2004 won't rank for 2005.


    Trendiness Report starting Jan. 2005 ending Dec. 2005
    at least 10 days in the trend

    1. NYSE Comp.
    2. 90 Day T-Bill
    3. Nikkei Index
    4. British Pound
    5. CRB Futures
    6. Australian Dollar
    7. Japanese Yen
    8. Swiss Franc
    9. Muni Bonds
    10. Goldman Sachs C.I.
    11. Euro
    12. Mini Value Line
    13. Corn
    14. Platinum
    15. Natural Gas
    16. Soybeans
    17. Gold
    18. Soybean Meal
    19. Cocoa
    20. Eurodollars
    21. KC Wheat
    22. Lumber
    23. Pork Bellies
    24. Oats
    25. Unleaded Gas
    26. Palladium
    27. Wheat
    28. Dollar Index
    29. Feeder Cattle
    30. Minn Wheat
    31. Soybean Oil
    32. Mexican Peso
    33. Orange Juice
    34. Sugar #11
    35. Dax Index
    36. T-notes
    37. Coffee
    38. Copper
    39. Silver
    40. S&P 400 Midcap
    41. Canadian Dollar
    42. Heating Oil #2
    43. Live Hogs
    44. Rough Rice
    45. FTSE 100 Index
    46. T-bonds
    47. Cotton #2
    48. Live Cattle
    49. Fed Funds
    50. Long Gilt Bond
    51. Crude Oil
    52. Russell 2000
    53. Short Sterling
    54. 10 YR T-Notes
    55. 5 YR T-Notes
    56. German Bund
    57. Nasdaq 100
    58. S&P 500
    59. Dow Jones Index
    60. Emini S&P 500
     
    #27     Feb 27, 2006
  8. Toad

    Toad

    Interesting stuff. Do you have a similar report for a longer period of time, say 10 or 20 years? That would be very interesting to see what the big picture for these markets is in terms trendiness.
     
    #28     Feb 27, 2006
  9. acrary

    acrary

    Here's the ranking for the last 10 years. If a future has been trading for less than 10 years, the rank is based on the trendiness since it began trading.

    Trendiness Report starting Jan. 1996 ending Dec. 2005
    at least 10 days in the trend

    1. Mini Value Line
    2. Nikkei Index
    3. 90 Day T-Bill
    4. Short Sterling
    5. Japanese Yen
    6. Palladium
    7. Fed Funds
    8. Australian Dollar
    9. Goldman Sachs C.I.
    10. Soybean Meal
    11. British Pound
    12. Platinum
    13. CRB Futures
    14. Euro
    15. Pork Bellies
    16. Swiss Franc
    17. Dollar Index
    18. Corn
    19. Lumber
    20. Eurodollars
    21. Gold
    22. NYSE Comp.
    23. KC Wheat
    24. Mexican Peso
    25. Soybeans
    26. Natural Gas
    27. Cocoa
    28. Feeder Cattle
    29. Oats
    30. Canadian Dollar
    31. Orange Juice
    32. Muni Bonds
    33. Minn Wheat
    34. Heating Oil #2
    35. Copper
    36. S&P 400 Midcap
    37. Live Hogs
    38. Rough Rice
    39. T-notes
    40. Unleaded Gas
    41. Crude Oil
    42. Russell 2000
    43. Live Cattle
    44. Soybean Oil
    45. Cotton #2
    46. Sugar #11
    47. Silver
    48. Wheat
    49. Dax Index
    50. Emini Nasdaq
    51. T-bonds
    52. S&P 500
    53. German Bund
    54. Coffee
    55. Nasdaq 100
    56. 5 YR T-Notes
    57. Long Gilt Bond
    58. FTSE 100 Index
    59. Dow Jones Index
    60. 10 YR T-Notes
    61. Emini S&P 500
     
    #29     Feb 27, 2006
  10. cnms2

    cnms2

    Lots of good work behind these lists! Thanks for sharing.
     
    #30     Feb 27, 2006