strike on iraq

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ElCubano, Sep 6, 2002.

  1. TigerO

    TigerO

    Yeah. Go write a book on what it's like being a Redneck.

    Bye.
     
    #741     Oct 4, 2002
  2. Good, idea, when would you available for an interview?
     
    #742     Oct 4, 2002
  3. TigerO

    TigerO

    LOL, you still smokin crack, Max??

    Go take a hike on the far side, buddy.


    The Top Ten Conservative Idiots (No. 85)


    September 30, 2002

    Iraq And Roll Edition

    Dubya is back with a vengeance this week after curiously failing to crack the chart two weeks ago. He claims the number one, part of the number two, and the number three spots. Way to go, George!

    The chump-in-charge's behind-the-scenes puppetmaster, Dick Cheney, also manages to grab a slot this week, sneaking in at number four.

    Holding on behind these world-class idiots we find Katherine Harris's most unlikely fan Candice Brown McElyea (5), unnecessarily irate congressman Joe Wilson (7), and the hilariously hypocritical Bob Richardson (9). It's a fine list this week so enjoy, and as usual, don't forget the key.

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    NO: 1!
    George W. Bush

    Iraq! Iraq! Iraq! Iraq! Iraq! Iraq! Iraq!

    Yes folks, it seems that George W. Bush's brain has jammed.

    Never mind Osama bin Laden, the economy, corporate scandals (that he insisted he was so concerned about), unemployment, or a host of other domestic issues.

    It's all about getting troops into Iraq and kicking Saddam's butt with our great big red, white and blue boots.

    So why is Dubya so fixated on Iraq?

    Does he really think that Saddam is an imminent threat to the good people of the United States?

    Or could it possibly be because if he doesn't talk about Iraq, then he'll have to talk about... Osama bin Laden, the economy, corporate scandals, unemployment, or a host of other domestic issues?

    We report, you decide. By the way, we didn't publish the list last week, but we haven't forgotten about George's recent brilliant and Churchillian, "Fool me, won't get fooled again," speech. If you missed it, click here for the full inanity. (*this link has been fixed - thanks to T. Ikeda)
    George W. Bush


    NO 3!
    George W. Bush

    Thank goodness George isn't above a hefty dose of bullpoop to make sure he gets revenge on the man who tried to kill his dad.

    The International Atomic Energy Agency last week said that a report cited by Dubya as evidence that Iraq is six months away from developing a nuclear weapon... doesn't exist.

    Huh? Yup, President Joke said this on September 7th: "I would remind you that when the inspectors first went into Iraq and were denied — finally denied access, a report came out of the Atomic — the IAEA that they were six months away from developing a weapon. I don't know what more evidence we need."

    What more evidence indeed.

    How about some evidence that actually exists? Going into full spin mode, the White House suggested that Bush was talking about an earlier (much earlier) report. "He's referring to 1991 there," said Deputy Press Secretary Scott McClellan. Uh - no, actually. The IAEA's chief spokesman said no such report was issued in 1991 either. Of course, the media faithfully reported this "evidence" as god's own truth - so guess what, kids? Iraq is six months away from developing a nuclear weapon! It's true because George said so!



    NO 4!
    Dick Cheney

    Meanwhile, it seems that Dick Cheney's Coward Budget is getting a little tight.

    Vice President Crashcart's staff said last week that he needs an extra $100,000 for travel - presumably to get to and from his secret hidey-hole a little quicker.

    Congress has already appropriated $386,000 for Dick's little trips this year - which he's spent - plus an extra $50,000 for "unanticipated travel."

    With the extra $100,000, that comes to a grand total of $536,000.

    Is that a lot? The New York Times reports that, "in 1994, the comparable year for President Bill Clinton, former Vice President Al Gore was allocated $135,000 - or $164,000 in today's dollars - and spent $42,000, or $51,000 in today's dollars."

    Of course, Al Gore didn't have 9/11 to worry about. But then, he's not a yellow-bellied chicken either.



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    The Washington Post on Dubya's inadvertent recent changes:


    Damaging or not, the change in Bush has been stark. In July, the White House, in addition to events highlighting homeland security and war, focused on corporate corruption, the economy, welfare reform, trade, disabilities, adoption, prescription drugs and Bush's "faith-based" plan.

    In September, Iraq and Saddam Hussein dominate virtually every major appearance by Bush, except for an odd event to spotlight education or the economy.

    LOL

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62783-2002Sep24.html

     
    #743     Oct 4, 2002
  4. The plot thickens. You have just asked three $64,000 questions. I can only speculate that there IS something happening that has upset the power arrangements. I think he was warned about Kuwait and he didn't heed it. I do think that we have closed our eyes both for political and humanitarian violations far too long.

    I can only now hope that we are looking at setting many of our past errors right. If you have followed my solution oriented posts, then you see that I am advocating a change in many ways that we do things. But they all will have to pretty much start with us correcting (and removing) some of our more belligerent puppets. They can either go quietly, or...

    I would hate to see any deaths come about with maybe the exception of Sadam himself. He has done enough things to be removed. I don't think we intended him to be president for life. But I think they should have told him before now.

    Here's the bad part of your questions. If I were living his life, I'd be doing a lot of things differently. So for that point, I would not be able to give you a good answer. :)
     
    #744     Oct 4, 2002
  5. wow, I had no idea there would be extreme left wingers on a stock trading web site. What brings you guys to this site ?
     
    #745     Oct 5, 2002
  6. Cesko

    Cesko

    See, I've been posted abroad a lot as an I-Banker, and I've seen lotsa countries where, totally unlike the USA, basíc benefits aren't a problem, where we don't have every 4th kid growing up in poverty, and believe you me, poverty in the US is different and way worse than poverty in many OECD countries I've seen, anyway, where the infrastructure is great, where people have great education benefits, social security including medical insurance and all, and where societies still manage to generate lotsa millionaires, and even billionaires in usd.

    LEAVE

    It's possible, I've done that. Move to paradise!! I have been in this country for 15 years and I have never seen a poverty. Every 4th child in poverty? Idiot.
     
    #746     Oct 5, 2002
  7. Aren't the tax rates neccessary to get those state benefits excessive?
     
    #747     Oct 5, 2002
  8. TigerO, you MIGHT (that's one pretty big might) have some half decent points to make, but when you spew forth that complete mothefucking leftist bullshit about poverty, inequality, blah blah how the FUCK can you expect ANYONE to take you seriously you demented nut? HOW???

    you are obviously sooooooooo freakin out of touch with reality i wouldn't be surprised to hear you put a bullet in your head to end that deluded misery you must surely be living in.

    insane!

    the really sad thing is you appear to have half a brain there somewhere. but all you seem to care to use it for is to invent ever more hair brained examples of how bad america is. for your own sake, i truly hope you care to make a REAL investigation - you know, one where you explore FACTS to help you make up your mind (NOT make up your mind first, and then find "facts" to support it).
     
    #748     Oct 5, 2002
  9. Hmm, I would not quite have addressed it that way, but I do concur about the real facts piece. I do think there are troubles in the country. But I really do think that many who have not spent any real time up close and involved in the conditions that they speak of "personally," speak with an overboard discussion for emphasis. Not everyone who lives in poverty is condemned to stay there as in many of the other locales around the world.

    I am always fascinated by the need to remind me that those who do make efforts to better themselves, and those who excel, somehow are to blame for those who did/do not. Then the real stretch just floors me. If we allow the government to create another program as a "safety net" everything will be better. Never once do the programs help to "IMPROVE" the people who are disadvantaged, just to help make the existing conditions more livable.

    Until everyone starts to demand that government provide steps "UP" for the disadvantaged, we will always have this growing separation in the classes and their abilities. We need to be sure that those programs have true assistance for people improvement and not just condition easing or balancing. Government involvement should only be sought and desired when there is NO OTHER WAY, not when the way is not too easy.

    Lastly, as difficult as it might be, we who are making things work must demand the true participation in improvement of the situations that exists, from those trapped there. They, and only they, can and must improve themselves or the whole effort is in vain and destined to failure. No it won't be an easy task, but it can be achieved! :)
     
    #749     Oct 5, 2002
  10. One of the greatest "poverty-stricken" metropolitan areas in the country . . . And nobody cares.
     
    #750     Oct 5, 2002