Strategy Trading, Probabilities & Blackjack/Poker

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Remiraz, Sep 10, 2005.

  1. KevinK

    KevinK Guest

    Because whenever I enter a daytrade it meets specific criteria that I apply time and time again.
    I do so many parralells b/t trading and gambling. I am a big horseplayer and I feel that a good day at the track or on the screen playing the horses much resembles a good day on the screen daytrading stocks!
     
    #11     Sep 10, 2005
  2. milstar

    milstar

    Ramirez wrote -

    the thing is: how do we know our entries aren't random?
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    From scientific point of view movements of atoms with freq very more as teragerz are not true random ,but only quazirandom .

    Communication code which based on this movements and used regulary ,can be open

    Your entry are not occasional and can not be .
     
    #12     Sep 10, 2005
  3. milstar

    milstar

    Ramirez wrote -

    the thing is: how do we know our entries aren't random?
    -------------------------------------

    From scientific point of view movements of atoms with freq very more as teragerz are not true random ,but only quazirandom .

    Communication code which based on this movements and used regulary ,can be open

    Your entry are not occasional and can not be .
     
    #13     Sep 10, 2005
  4. mahras2

    mahras2

    Actually random entries will not have a 50/50 probability. During a sustained trend the probability is skewed towards the direction of the trend. That 50/50 rule is believed by efficient market theorists who believe an uptick on the previous bar tells us nothing about the next bar so the odds is 50/50. However, if you believe that then you are telling people that you will never make money trading.
     
    #14     Sep 10, 2005
  5. What criteria do you use to decide you are in a sustained uptrend?
     
    #15     Sep 10, 2005
  6. price , volume, an indicator
     
    #16     Sep 10, 2005
  7. So when these tell you you are in a trend, from that point on random entries are skewed in the direction of that trend, and any entry would favor making money?
     
    #17     Sep 10, 2005
  8. Remiraz

    Remiraz

    In BJ counting, it takes 10,000 hands to really show if the player has an edge. The rest of the time, equity changes are due to variance. In fact, a good counter with 1-2% edge can be down a lot on his first 50-100 hands and make big bucks later.

    Strange thing is like when it comes to trading, we see very often people post a journal or screenies of 10-20 trades and claim they have an edge.
     
    #18     Sep 11, 2005
  9. KevinK

    KevinK Guest

    While 10,000 hands sounds like a lot, it really isn't that much time...about 80-120 days.
     
    #19     Sep 11, 2005
  10. Remiraz

    Remiraz

    you do know that efficient market theorists derive their findings from empiricial data? you also know that if a mathematician write something like "i don't have evidence but i believe" he is going to get an arse whooping of a lifetime by his collegues? and the biggest money makers (insitution arbing) comes from the assumption that the market is random?
     
    #20     Sep 11, 2005