Strategy risk vs overall risk mandate

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by bln, Mar 1, 2024.

  1. Zwaen

    Zwaen

    But isn’t this basically index investing, since you only stay in the best performers?
     
    #21     Mar 2, 2024
  2. Back of the envelope, at 20% return you’d turn 1k into 240k after 30 years assuming zero volatility. Compounding is a miracle but not a big miracle :)
     
    #22     Mar 2, 2024
  3. deaddog

    deaddog

    True but if you added a grand a year you'd have your million.
     
    #23     Mar 2, 2024
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  4. deaddog

    deaddog

    In a way it is, I rebalance more often than the index, don't have the diversification and don't suffer the drawdowns. For the most part I outperform the index.
     
    #24     Mar 2, 2024
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  5. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I think compounding is not novel but it is a significant source of wealth creation.
     
    #25     Mar 2, 2024
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  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    He said a few thousand, not $1K.
     
    #26     Mar 2, 2024
  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    You are a trader, I am a speculator.

    As I said in another post elsewhere, time will favor absolute returns in a volatile instrument with high drift vs a less volatile instrument with low drift.
     
    #27     Mar 2, 2024
  8. deaddog

    deaddog

    (chuckle) I refer to myself as a speculator. I move in and out of the market speculating on the price movement of assets that investors invest in. What makes me a speculator is that I might hold for the long term as long as the asset price moves in my direction.

    I'm a risk adverse speculator as I don't hold any assets that move against me.

    I could be considered a trader as I move in and out of the market as dictated by price movement. The one thing I'm not is an investor.

    How do you differenciate between trading and speculation?
     
    #28     Mar 2, 2024
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  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    I don't know. I think there is really a continuum.

    I am thinking a trader is like a middleman, buying and selling, doesn't hold for long, makes money on the spread?? When I day trade, I trade in and out for small spreads.

    A speculator? One who buys/sells, willing to hold out for huge profits and willing to risk it all if he does not get his price?? When I speculate with options, I hold it to expiration, willing to lose it all in return for potentially X times what I paid for.
     
    #29     Mar 2, 2024
  10. deaddog

    deaddog

    I agree
    Risk it all sounds more like a gambler.
    I'm quite willing to hold on for huge profits but I see no reason to risk it all.
    I maintain that the difference between a gambler and a speculator is prudent risk management.
     
    #30     Mar 2, 2024