Hey pabst straight up your ass. How come canadian intelligence was able to catch this group, the entire group without resorting to unconsitutional and unlawful tactics. They didnt have to resort to torture, unlawful jailing, illegal wiretaps, and etc. How many terriosts have americans captured in the USA using your measures. NONE in the last 5 years. We were able to catch these thugs. And yes they are an aberrant thugs.