Straight talking McCain

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by james_bond_3rd, Mar 17, 2007.


    I love the part
    Mr. McCain: (Laughs) “Are we on the Straight Talk express? I’m not informed enough on it. Let me find out. You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception – I’m sure I’m opposed to government spending on it, I’m sure I support the president’s policies on it.”

    The guy is running for president and he doesn't know where he stands?
  2. That's why he's is losing out. He's senile.
  3. Have you ever campaigned for political office?

    Do you have a well researched, articulated opinion on every stupid thing that people ask?

    Who the fuck CARES about John McCain's opinion of condoms.

    BTW: Who does he have in the East bracket of the NCAA?

    Here's Alan Keye's synopsis on Aids in Africa. Until African's stop having sex with everything that moves, there will be a high incidence of HIV. I'm sure that response would be too straight talk for the NYT.

  4. McCain is the strongest Republican candidate. The problem is that a large number of evangelicals hate his guts (to the extent that they'd choose Romney or Giuliani) and that by trying to win them over he's ailenating his base. If I were him I'd just say what I think rather than try and pander to them - if he doesn't get the nomination he can always run as an independant with Lieberman.
  5. I think your right but he's already blowing it by sucking up to the religious right. He had a good thing going when he wasn't trying to please everybody. Nobody likes a suck up. He has time to get it right though, but I don't think he will.
  6. America comes first, not Israel. McCain's father was part of the USS Liberty coverup, don't expect anything good from this guy.

    Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is the “Conscience of the Senate.” Nevertheless, he won’t
    come clean about what really happened to the USS Liberty, at the hands of
    the Israelis, via napalm, gunfire, torpedoes and missiles, on June 8, 1967,
    13 miles off the coast of the Sinai Peninsula. McCain’s conscience, it
    seems, has its limits. I suspect it’s because the powerful Israeli Lobby
    weighs in so ominously in Washington, DC, protecting the interests of its
    favorite country -- Israel -- and making sure the mostly mousey congress
    people are kept totally in line or else. (<a target="_blank" href=""></a>)</span></p>
    <p align="justify"><span style="font-size: 11pt">I wrote Sen. McCain, the
    “Conscience of the Senate,” back on March 8, 1997, pointing out to him that
    for “close to 30 years, the truth concerning Israel’s murderous attack on
    the USS Liberty has been covered-up...” I underscored for him that, “The
    conspiracy of silence concerning the Liberty must be ended now.” I urged
    him, “To stand up on the Senate floor and demand that Congress do its duty:
    investigate the Liberty all the survivors and all relevant
    witnesses to testify at a public hearing. Let justice, finally, be done for
    the fallen heroes of the Liberty.” (I found out later that one of the fallen
    heroes was Petty Office William B. Allenbaugh, a Baltimorean, who had
    graduated from my alma mater, Calvert Hall H.S.) </span></p>
    <p align="justify"><span style="font-size: 11pt">McCain declined my offer to
    raise his voice on behalf of the Liberty. He said that he wasn’t going to do
    anything about it because the “matter was thoroughly reviewed.” Really! In
    his letter to me, dated, April 28, 1997, he relied on the results of the now
    totally discredited Naval Court of Inquiry, which was conducted by Rear
    Admiral Isaac Kidd, USN. It began on June 10, 1967, and lasted less than a
    week. A scathing and devastating
    <a target="_blank" href="">
    rebuttal</a> of that seriously flawed Naval Inquiry can be found in the
    “Declaration,” dated Jan. 8, 2004, of Capt. Ward Boston, Jr., JAGC, USN
    (Ret). He was the senior legal counsel to the USS Liberty’s Court of Naval
    Inquiry. Boston said that Admiral Kidd, the presiding officer of the Court,
    felt that the attack was “deliberate” and that the Israelis were “murderous
    b.......” Boston added that Kidd was pressured by the White House and the
    Defense Department to return a finding that the attack was a result of
    “mistaken identity.” </span></p>

    <p align="justify"><span style="font-size: 11pt">The unprovoked assault on
    the Liberty, which lasted 75 minutes, killed 34 brave Americans and wounded
    172 others (<u>Assault on the Liberty</u>, James M. Ennes, Jr. and James
    Bamford’s <u>Body of Secrets</u>). The Israelis were trying to murder all
    294 Americans on board the surveillance vessel, sink it, and make it look
    like the Egyptians had done it (<u>Operation Cyanide</u>, by Peter Hounam).
    The Israelis claimed it was “a mistake,” (See, Zionist Israel apologist’s
    Ahron Jay Cristol, “The Liberty Incident.” Cristol also smears those
    demanding justice in the Liberty matter as “conspiracy theorists.”) </span>
    <p align="justify"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Now, here’s the kicker: One
    of the Navy bigwigs pushing hard for a sanitized Liberty inquiry was none
    other than Sen. McCain’s father, Admiral John S. McCain, Jr.,
    Commander-in-Chief, Naval Forces Europe. He wanted the investigation done in
    less than a week. Boston said a “proper inquiry would take at least six
    months.” Admiral McCain also wouldn’t permit Admiral Kidd to travel to
    Israel or to contact any potential Israelis witnesses. In fact, according to
    Boston, the written affidavits of 60 witnesses from the Liberty itself, who
    were hospitalized at the time of the restricted Inquiry, were also excluded
    from the final report and not considered as part of the evidentiary record.
    Boston is convinced, too, that the Israelis’ machine-gunning of the
    Liberty’s lifeboats, while the crew was trying desperately to assist their
    colleagues that were seriously wounded, was “a war crime.” Boston said
    higher ups wanted “to put a lid on everything” concerning the Liberty.

    <p align="justify"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Many competent and
    authoritative responses have been made to all of the lame excuses raised by
    the Israelis and their sycophants. For compelling evidence, check out the
    books of Ennes, Bamford and Hounam cited above; also, go to the
    <a target="_blank" href=""></a>
    site itself, and its related links. Terrence O’Keefe’s insightful
    <a target="_blank" href="">
    The Myth of Thirteen Investigations</a> is a good place to start anyone’s
    education in a quest for the full truth, along with the excellent video,
    “USS Liberty Dead in the Water.” </span></p>
    <p align="justify"><span style="font-size: 11pt">So, McCain, the “Conscience
    of the Senate” wasn’t going to do anything about bringing justice to the
    Liberty! He did, however, say something else in his letter that made me feel
    suspicious about his do-nothing position. He said, “The attacking nation”
    did not submit any evidence or testimony on their behalf about the assault
    at the inquiry. “Attacking nation!” What is that suppose to mean? Why
    couldn’t McCain just come right out, he is the “Conscience of the Senate”
    after all, and simply say: The Israelis? Why use a deceptive term, like:
    “attacking nation?” Talk about Orwellian Double Speak! I can’t imagine
    McCain writing about the attack on U.S. forces at Pearl Harbor, on Dec. 7,
    1941, and instead of stating up front that Japan was responsible, refer to
    that sneaky, militant aggressor as the “attacking nation.” </span></p>
    <p align="justify"><span style="font-size: 11pt">McCain may be known as the
    “Conscience of the Senate,” but considering the low reputation of that body,
    that’s not really saying much. I mean these are the same political weasels,
    led by that repulsive Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (D-Ct), who passed the USA
    Patriot Act in the middle of the night, without any public hearing. Then,
    they gave away their Constitutional war-making power, under Art. 1, Sec. 8,
    to President George W. Bush, Jr., so he could lie us into the Iraqi
    conflict. And, while the country was still reeling from all of that, the
    Congress enacted the draconian Homeland Security Law. McCain participated in
    all three of these gross violations of the public trust, acting as a lap dog
    for the hawkish Lieberman. </span></p>

    <p align="justify"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Now, having said all of
    that, everyone knows that McCain is a genuine war hero. He spent 7 dreadful
    years as a Vietnam POW, under some horrific conditions. He was a naval
    pilot, who was shot down on a bombing run over that beleaguered country.
    Some POWs, however, seem like bigger, more celebrated heroes than others. I
    think it depends on your family, and PR connections, too, and also your
    propaganda value, if you know what I mean. For example, it didn’t hurt
    McCain that his dad and his grandfather were both admirals in the U.S. Navy.
    <p align="justify"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Meanwhile, my old buddy
    from South Baltimore, Harry Agro, was a U.S. Navy guy, and a POW, too. He
    was a gunnery mate on merchant marine ships and survived two sinkings.
    Somebody should make a movie about Agro’s harrowing war time experiences. He
    spent close to 3 years in a Japanese POW camp, Hakodate, on the northern
    most island of Hokkaido, during WWII. The racist Japanese guards, (they
    hated Americans), beat Agro viciously just about every day of the week. They
    also worked him almost to death in their coal mines, while giving him little
    to eat. Harry’s father, a native of Sicily, unlike McCain’s, was a
    blue-collar worker. So, nobody has heard much about his son’s POW ordeal.
    McCain, yes. Agro, no. Even so, Agro will always be one of my personal
    heroes. </span></p>
    <p align="justify"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Finally, important and
    relevant disclosures have been made regarding the Liberty matter, since the
    “Conscience of the Senate” sent his half-baked letter to me on April 28,
    1997. During this presidential election year, McCain will be making numerous
    campaign stops on behalf of the Bush-Cheney Gang. If you get a chance, ask
    him this question: “When are you going to stop covering-up about what really
    happened to the USS Liberty?” </span></p>
    <p align="justify"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><b><font color="#FF0000">
    William Hughes</font></b> is the author of <u>Saying “No” to the War Party</u>
    (IUniverse, Inc.). He can be reached at
    <a href=""></a>. ©
    William Hughes 2004 </span></p>

  7. McCain is nothing but a scumbag. Check out McCain and Charles Keating or the Keating five. He should have gone to jail.
  8. The sound you hear is McCain's campaign going down the toilet. He used the word "tarbaby", so now he will get the Trent Lott treatment for a week or two. For a guy who is dropping fast in the polls, the last thing he needs is a distraction.