Straddles, are they ever profitable?

Discussion in 'Options' started by TradeCat, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. sle

    sle

    Still don't see how 2 units of "synthetic" straddle is different from 1 unit of regular put+call straddle, since they would give you the same exposure. The only difference, as newwurldmn points out, is that shorting the stock has a difference treatment from margin and funding perspective.
     
    #21     Jun 29, 2016
  2. Jones75

    Jones75

    Your interpretation of what I said is skewed.

    I've been talking about synthetics only. You're talking regular straddles. The example I gave was an extreme only. Bottom line is a long synthetic is far less risky than a traditional straddle…that's my two cents.
     
    #22     Jun 29, 2016
  3. Exactly...so SELL the weekly straddles. The theta is on your side with such a short-term trade.
     
    #23     Jun 29, 2016
  4. sle

    sle

    So you are saying that if Bobby buys 2 calls and shorts stock, while Jimmy bought a call and a put, Bobby is somehow better off?
     
    #24     Jun 29, 2016
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  5. Jones75

    Jones75

    Not sure we are on the same page here:

    Long put synthetic straddle:
    100 share of stock = 100 deltas
    2 ATM puts = 100 deltas
     
    #25     Jun 29, 2016
  6. sle

    sle

    Yes, that is definitely true. Risk-free money.
     
    #26     Jun 29, 2016
  7. Jones75

    Jones75

    Though I don't like to short stock, but yes, Bobby is better off. Paper trade it.
     
    #27     Jun 29, 2016
  8. " Long 200s," +200d
    " long four .5 delta puts " -200d

    vs

    " +2C, " +100d
    "+2P ATM " -100d
     
    #28     Jun 29, 2016
  9. " buys 2 calls " +100d
    " and shorts stock " -100d

    vs

    " bought a call " ATM +50d

    " and a put " ATM -50d
     
    #29     Jun 29, 2016
  10. Furthermore, futures is linear, i.e. always 100d!

    Options is nonlinear. Therefore for buying long 2 ATM options, they can be 100d initially. However they could change to say 120d or 80d, varying to anything between ~0d to ~200d!
     
    #30     Jun 29, 2016