Stop the occupation! Where is the outrage?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by John_Wensink, Aug 19, 2008.

  1. Russian soldiers take prisoners in Georgia port

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    Aug 19, 9:58 AM (ET)


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    RUISI, Georgia (AP) - Russian soldiers took 20 Georgian troops prisoner at a key port in western Georgia on Tuesday, blindfolding them and holding them at gunpoint, and commandeered American Humvees awaiting shipment back to the United States.

    The move came as a small column of Russian tanks and armored vehicles left the strategic Georgian city of Gori in the first sign of a Russian pullback of troops from Georgia after a cease-fire intended to end fighting that reignited Cold War tensions. The two countries on Tuesday also exchanged prisoners captured during their brief war.

    However, Russian soldiers took Georgian servicemen prisoner in Poti on the Black Sea and commandeered the U.S. Humvees. An Associated Press photographer saw Russian trucks and armored personnel carriers leaving the port with about 20 blindfolded and handcuffed men riding on them.

    Port spokesman Eduard Mashevoriani said the men were Georgian soldiers.

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    The deputy head of Russia's general staff, Col. Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn, said Russian forces plan to remain in Poti until a local administration is formed, but did not give further details. He also justified previous seizures of Georgian soldiers as necessary to crack down on soldiers who were "out of any kind of control ... acting without command."

    Russian troops last week drove Georgian forces out of South Ossetia, where Georgia on Aug. 7 launched a heavy artillery barrage in the separatist Georgian province with close ties to Russia. Fighting also has flared in a second Russian-backed separatist region, Abkhazia.

    The short war has driven tensions between Russia and the West to some of their highest levels since the breakup of the Soviet Union, but Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has icily defended Russia's actions.

    "Anyone who tries anything like that will face a crushing response," he said Monday. Later Medvedev handed out military medals to Russian soldiers involved in the fighting.

    The cease-fire requires both sides to return to positions held before the fighting began.

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    On Tuesday, a small column of Russian tanks and armored vehicles left Gori, and a Russian officer said they were heading back to South Ossetia and then Russia. Col. Igor Konoshenkov, a Russian military officer at the scene, gave no timetable for when the unit would reach Russia.

    Also Tuesday, Russia and Georgia exchanged 20 prisoners of war in an effort to reduce tensions. Two Russian military helicopters landed in the village of Igoeti, the closest that Russian forces have advanced to the Georgian capital of Tbilisi. Soldiers and men in unmarked clothing got off and two people in stretchers were taken to Georgian officials.

    Georgian ambulances later brought two other people to the Russian choppers. One was on a gurney.

    Georgian Security Council head Alexander Lomaia told reporters in Igoeti that 15 Georgians and five Russians were exchanged. "It went smoothly," he said. The operation also witnessed by Russian Maj. Gen. Vyacheslav Borisov, who commands troops in the area.

    Lomaia said the exchange removed any pretext for Russians to keep holding positions in Igoeti, 30 miles west of Tbilisi, or anywhere else on Georgia's only significant east-west highway.

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    In Brussels, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was backing the setting up of a permanent NATO-Georgia Commission to solidify ties between the Western alliance and Georgia. Diplomats said Washington also supports increasing training for the Georgian military.

    At the same time, NATO foreign ministers were discussing possibly scaling back high-level meetings and military cooperation with Russia if it does not abandon crucial positions across Georgia. But there were differences within the alliance over how far to go in punishing Moscow.

    At a separate meeting, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe said Russia agreed to allow 20 more international military monitors in and around South Ossetia.

    Finnish Foreign Minister Alexander Stubb says the plan calls for the observers to be sent immediately to Tbilisi. The group already has nine observers based in South Ossetia.

    The United Nations has estimated that the fighting displaced more than 158,000 people. U.N. refugee chief Antonio Guterres arrived in Tbilisi on Tuesday to meet with government representatives to discuss the plight of tens of thousands of South Ossetians uprooted by Georgia's conflict with Russia.

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    Guterres then will travel to Moscow to meet with Russian officials, U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees spokesman Andrej Mahecic said.

    Mahecic told journalists in Geneva that UNHCR, like other aid agencies, has not been able to reach the civilian population in much of South Ossetia because of security issues there. The area is now controlled by Russia.

    "We have seen media reports indicating that people are being shot at while trying to leave the area," he said.

    In Gori, most shops were shut and people milled around on the central square with its statue of the Soviet dictator and native son Josef Stalin.

    "The city is a cold place now. People are fearful," said Nona Khizanishvili, 44, who fled Gori a week ago for an outlying village and returned Monday, trying to reach her son in Tbilisi.

  2. You are nick deep in your state's aggression shit. Do not even try to claim that you are bothered by the smell of shit coming from others.

    As for the occupation, everyone knows that it is your satellite state that attacked South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Now that they were bitch slapped for their bullying tactics, their mama Condi and her little bitches (you and others like you) are screaming bloody murder.

    Russia did not do 1/1000000 of what you did in Iraq.

    Do me a favor; SHUT THE FUCK UP
  3. maxpi


    I heard a story about an American on tour viewing the Kremlin. He said "in America we have freedom of speech, we can stand in front of our White House and criticize our president". The russian tour guide said "we have freedom of speech too, we can stand in front of the Kremlin and criticize your president"
  4. Good justification makes sense.

    Russia has no business being there, it's Georgian territory not Russian.

    War crimes tribunals in the Hague should begin soon.

  5. Arnie


    Russia fucked up........big time.

    Looks like Ukraine will be the next NATO member.
  6. Yeah, but why aren't you bothered by that smell? When the US invaded Iraq you and your ilk were outraged by the invasion, now that Russia invades Georgia you're still outraged by the US invasion. For whatever reason you're also mad at Georgia, the only country you people are not outraged about is Russia.
  7. Exactly my point.

    Nobody cares unless it's America.

    They arm the hutus and sit and watch the most effective round of genocide in the world's history and nobody says a word. They sit and watch the genocide in Darfur and nobody says a word.

    And on and on but if America is involved, then dammit something must be done, something must be said, we need to protest world wide.

    and so it goes.

  8. They don't call us the most powerful country in the world for nothing.

  9. When I refer to "they" it's all the previous protestors of Iraq in Europe. France to be more clear.

    If you don't know who the hutus are I suggest you look it up.

  10. Actually they do. South Ossetia and Abkhazia asked for their help and they obliged.

    On the other hand, The US did the same crime to Georgia as they did to Israel; they instructed them to launch a criminal war against these two sovereign territories and states.
    #10     Aug 19, 2008