Stop paying credit cards. Give yourself a bailout!!

Discussion in 'Economics' started by jueco2005, Mar 26, 2009.

  1. I have no sympathy whatsoever for banks/lending instituions & their BS fine print designed to fleece the borrower.......i`m on the side of we,the people.
    My point is on 12k of yesterdays money....the thread starter will pay much more than that over the course of his young life.

    here is a cat that was ahead of the trap!

    Thomas Jefferson's Warning To America
    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

    btw,Bears.....i`m sorry to hear about what had happened to you thru Kara Homes...........i`m in North Jersey so i`m familiar with them & the story.
     
    #151     Mar 28, 2009
  2. bears21

    bears21

    thanks spooz it has taken a while but things are starting to get back to some level of stability for my family and I. I do want to say that people should stop passing judgement on somebody because everyone has a unique situation. It doesnt mean your a deadbeat or bla bla bla. I could care less about what anyone thinks of me that i dont come into contact with. It would be much harder personally to default on someone you do know such as friends and family. to me lending institutions are a tool (no pun) just like we are to them. If you have to make that choice you have to put yourself first before the banks. that is something i never could figure out people would actually miss their mortgage payment to make a cc payment. one obligation is secured while the other one is unsecured. my credit is slowly creeping back up, i have a few secured cc and i dont buy anything anymore unless i have the cash. my car is paid in cash the house i have now is the only debt out there. people mock trump and he does some shady shit but he somehow comes out on top in his situations. is he a deadbeat because if he is then he rules. look at what hes got hot chick tons of assets, and he still has a good name after all those times of defaults his name is intack. he can still trump up business.
     
    #152     Mar 28, 2009
  3. Frostie

    Frostie

    What I don't understand is that CC companies lend out money at 10-30% interest to account for the risk they take on the borrowers. These rates seem reasonable in the current environment, but what made these rates reasonable a few years ago when the default levels/risk were relatively low?

    IMO there are two sides to every contract and if the deal is broken, both parties are at fault in one way or another. The CC companies seem to be scrambling to reposition themselves and re-evaluate(evaluate for the first time maybe) their business model.
     
    #153     Mar 28, 2009
  4. volente_00

    volente_00




    And when the court sees the money you have in your trading account ?
     
    #154     Mar 28, 2009
  5. volente_00

    volente_00



    Airline ticket ?


    Unless you drive there in person and buy it perhaps ?
     
    #155     Mar 28, 2009

  6. Ok 1stly how would any court know that i have a traidng account?? :)

    (In uk the law is extremely different since we can use SB accounts which are totally tax free, and so dont have to ever be declared)

    And theres no 'paper trail' linking you to ever using it, as they are all 'really offshore' accounts, all based in cayman islands, maldives, or other tax havens.
    Since its tax free income theres no reaosn why you would ever tell the government about it since its nothing to do with them.



    2ndly how on earth would it ever even get to court mate?? :)

    I know exactly how the legal system works, i did A-level law just to be able to know this sorta stuff even. lol

    The bank know that they are getting fuked over and screwed in by people from every direction,
    since picture the bank as a solid ball of water, everyone who isnt aying back loans now n blaming recession is like drops of water shooting out from that central ball, and the water represents money.


    So the bank have to try getting back any water that they can before they evaporate entirely,
    however they know how extremely hard it is to 'pickup water with their hands' and it costs them for each attempt they make.


    And so they only waste their time trying to pickup teh more 'solid' water,
    the people who own houses and cars that can be taken away from them trhough a court order.



    However why would the bnak waste even more money in taking me to court, when what can the bank order form me?? :cool: :p

    I rent not own, i dont ever wana drive myself so dont have a car, i keep all my money in the most offshore unreachable and untraceable osshore account possible that the court have no way of knowing eeven exists,
    and i make a living 100% from that source though and so theres no 'salary' coming into my bank account that they court could 'dock money from'. :)


    The bank's legal time arent complete idiots, they know all this, they know they i know all this too,
    and they know full well taht i knew exactly what i was doing and played them an un-beatable hand! :cool:



    So they just accept defeat as they know when they are beaten, and move on to trying to get money form people who didnt play teh game so strongly.
     
    #156     Mar 28, 2009
  7. volente_00

    volente_00



    In the U.S. the Bank you screwed over has your social and there are "people" that work for them that will make all your information find its way back to them should they need it. With that same social they can also pull previous tax returns which will show your trading activity.



    How do you have all your money in an offshore account and still access it ?


    Does it not have to be transferred to a local insitution in order for you to pull the money out ?

    Where does the money go to when you wire from the offshore account to ?????


    How do you get your money to your offshore account ?

    Fly over there and deposit cash ?
     
    #157     Mar 28, 2009
  8. Please keep the entertainment coming with the details of your loser life and how great you pretend it is! Have you ever thought of taking up the Jack Hershey method? You're definitely good enough at denial and make-believe to join their cult :p

    You can pretend you're savvy but the truth is, you're nothing more than a brown stain on society's underwear. You're too imcompetent to make your way above-board so you live a life where you have to hide like a cockroach. Which also makes you a coward.

    Great life you have -- NOT! You're throwing your money away on rent, you can't have a car, you have to hide what little you have fearing it will be taken from you... in short you live like a fugitive.

    You can pretend that's a great life but all you're doing is putting a fake happy face on a cow pie.

    This is your life:

    <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=2365921>

     
    #158     Mar 28, 2009
  9. spanish89,

    what does the SB account acronym stand for? SB = ?
     
    #159     Mar 28, 2009
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    #160     Mar 28, 2009