stop losses are for loooosers

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by primemover, Jun 29, 2005.

  1. nitro

    nitro

    :eek:

    nitro
     
    #81     Jun 29, 2005

  2. take multiple small losses, and your out for good.

    :)
     
    #82     Jun 29, 2005
  3. please allow a clarification. this thread is about fixxed price stops placed before entry. for instance---setting a 3% stoploss.

    i have found this theory not to stand up under testing and practice.

    however, time based stops have shown some validity.
     
    #83     Jun 29, 2005
  4. toe

    toe

    Everyone here is giving a different opinion without a thought for the fact that we all trade different systems, therefore we can all be wrong :D

    I trade a mechanical system with a two or three bar memory. It doesn't matter how you set stops, fixed, volatility based, noise level, they are useless. But timeout works perfectly. So its horses for courses, a system with a longer memory may not work with a set timeout.
     
    #84     Jun 29, 2005
  5. Great then don't go any further than you can swim.
     
    #85     Jun 29, 2005
  6. I have been trading for years and have never used a stop loss order. Instead I prefer to buy options to limit downside. This prevents getting shook out of positions because of "evil market makers gunning for my stops" or other trader excuses.
     
    #86     Jun 29, 2005
  7. uh, generally when one puts in a StpLmt for an effective stop loss order, then idea is capitulation that a position might reverse and become a loser,

    so, uhhhh,
    Yeah
    stop losses are for losers....


    duhhh
     
    #87     Jun 29, 2005

  8. :D

    well said, and smart strategy


    :)
     
    #88     Jun 29, 2005
  9. toe

    toe

    zf trader I've always wanted to try that, glad to know it works. I wonder whether it can be incorporated into a mechanical system.
     
    #89     Jun 29, 2005
  10. kubilai

    kubilai

    Being long and buying puts to hedge the position is the same as buying ITM calls alone. The second approach is better I think since it reduces commission costs, and saves capital for other investments. It works nicely as a stoploss at the strike price with absolutely no slippage. You do pay a premium though depending on how deep in the money you go with the calls.
     
    #90     Jun 29, 2005