Stop-loss: Trail or not?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Ates, Nov 24, 2019.

  1. tomorton

    tomorton

    Yes and No. Yes I do cut the losers and also add to the winners and also repeat them as the trend progresses. (no trend, no trade)

    But No, in the sense that if I could only see a 50:50 opportunity based on historic performance of a chart feature, I wouldn't enter in the first place.
     
    #21     Nov 25, 2019
    qlai likes this.
  2. Morning bone and thank you,

    I appreciate the comments. Very logical and I like the thought of high probability/percentage trades.

    I agree, I only look for 1-2 intraday trades per day. Trades are only high probability with trend.

    Would you say trading reversals are high percentage trades?
     
    #22     Nov 25, 2019
  3. bone

    bone

    I will trade any market circumstance provided that my indicator package and rules conditions are satisfied.
     
    #23     Nov 25, 2019
  4. CannonTrading_Ilan

    CannonTrading_Ilan Sponsor

    try trading multiples of 2 or more if possible, taking quicker profit on first unit and allowing the second part a chance to be a larger winner. Of course depends on logic, backtesting and much more.
     
    #24     Dec 2, 2019
    yc47ib and SimpleMeLike like this.
  5. Good advice,

    What is your opinion or advice on if the trader has not advanced yet to 2 contracts, and still stuck on trading 1 contract?

    I would like to do the 2 contracts (1 off at fixed target and trail the other), but still trying to get profitable with 1.
     
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2019
    #25     Dec 2, 2019
  6. CannonTrading_Ilan

    CannonTrading_Ilan Sponsor

    micros?
     
    #26     Dec 2, 2019
    SimpleMeLike likes this.
  7. bone

    bone

    Going from one contract to two is the most difficult sizing change in trading. I tell my clients to build account equity up to the point where personal comfort accommodates the bump. Going from 2 to 3 is not nearly so difficult.

     
    #27     Dec 2, 2019
  8. Thanks bone,

    For me, trading one contract is very challenging.

    Why is going from one contract to 2 contract so difficult from your experience?

    Thanks
     
    #28     Dec 2, 2019
  9. imjohn

    imjohn

    1 to 2 is tough because it's the only time you are compelled to double down.

    2 to 3, 3 to 4, 4 to 5, get's easier and easier.

    Churning out 500 ticks with 1 ES, then doubling down and hitting a statistically expected 100+ tick losing streak right off the bat with 2 ES, can be a demoralizing experience.
     
    #29     Dec 2, 2019
    yc47ib, bone and SimpleMeLike like this.
  10. imjohn

    imjohn

    OP, I have two methods. One has fixed stops and targets and the other utilizes a clearly defined trailing exit.

    Both do well over the long run, but some periods the fixed stop/target outperforms, and other times the trailing method outperforms. I would be ok running either method alone, and I favor the fixed stop/target. But I can also halve up size into each and run both methods concurrently. This smooths out the overall results a bit, but it's more work and takes more focus to execute.
     
    #30     Dec 2, 2019
    SimpleMeLike likes this.