Stop loss calculations help

Discussion in 'Trading' started by umarfxtrader, May 6, 2021.

  1. cesfx

    cesfx

    If you entered a position worth 50k (0.5 lot FX), on a 100k account... You don't need SL to make sure your max loss is 50k. Underlying goes to zero, you lost 50k.
     
    #11     May 7, 2021
  2. ‘Get margin-called’, that’s easier said than done, don’t you think, what do you suggest could be done to avoid it?
     
    #12     May 18, 2021
  3. See margin requirements vary depending on the brokerage you select, your account type, the trade type, and what securities are being traded. It’s really important that you understand these aspects before trading.
     
    #13     May 18, 2021
  4. virtusa

    virtusa

    Put all the know information in an Excel and let Excel find it out. Very easy.

    I have a model for trading the ES. I put all available information in and Excel tells me exactly what to do. I can run all kind of hypothetical situations in seconds and compare them.
     
    #14     May 18, 2021
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  5. easymon1

    easymon1

    What data items are required for these analyses?
     
    #15     May 18, 2021
  6. virtusa

    virtusa

    • Starting date
    • Symbol of the commodity
    • Tick value (tabel with values for every symbol that is followed)
    • Account size
    • Slippage in ticks
    • Commission (tabel with values for every symbol that is followed)
    • Max position size in contracts (tabel with values for every symbol that is followed)
    • Margin (tabel with values for every symbol that is followed)
    • Stop level in ticks (tabel with values for every symbol that is followed)
    • Withdrawals in $
    • Max open profit
    • Max open loss
    • Compounding or not, and till what size
    Are automatically calculated:
    • number of winning trades
    • number of losing trades
    • average profit per winning trade
    • average loss per losing trade
    • total losses in% against total profits
    • drawdowns
    • number of stopped out trades
    • Impact of withdrawals on the performance while compounding
    With this information I can for every symbol that I follow test a series of trades.
    If I enter a symbol, the corresponding specific values/variables are loaded.
    For the red marked items, I have lookup tables with the specific numbers for that symbol because there are more values possible for these items, depending on other variables.
    I can search for the optimal values for each variable.
     
    #16     May 18, 2021
  7. That’s the difference between amateur and professional traders. The latter minimize their losses and liquidate the losing positions to avoid margin calls. The former whereas deposit more funds to maintain a losing position.
     
    #17     May 19, 2021
  8. That’s an important point you mentioned here. The margin required by each trader basically depends on the trade that one wants to enter, it’s size, price, and finally the leverage that a trader wants to avail. I’ve actually been following a formula with turnkey forex ever since I’m trading.
    It goes Margin = current price x trading volume / leverage. Helped me a lot to avoid margin calls so far.
    Gonna stick by it even for my larger positions on IB.
     
    #18     May 20, 2021
  9. virtusa

    virtusa

    I never can have a margin call for the simple reasons that:
    • I use a bigger margin than what brokers offer
    • I use stops that are way before the margin call point
    The margins that are offered in what I trade (futures) are in general far to low for a "responsible" trader.

    Example: Trade ES intraday with $500 margin is crazy. If you use $2,500 margin, you have plenty of margin before you get to the broker's margin of $500. So normally you can never get a margin call.
     
    #19     May 20, 2021