stocks benefit from electric cars?

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by newguy05, Aug 13, 2009.

  1. hi what are some stocks that will benefit of the upcoming electric car revolution?

    I dont mean actual car companies, but component manufacturers for example that all eletric cars will order parts from etc..

    They seem to be pretty hard to find, i am holding pbw but that's a very generic green energy index, i want something more specific to electric cars.

    any recommendations? thanks
  2. The lithium batteries for the Volt come from LG Electronics of South Korea.

    Not many fertilizer/lithium companies out there. Bolivia controls 50% of the world's lithium production.

    There is a small company in Nevada that is doing some preliminary studies and core-sample tests for lithium. It is a penny stock on the Toronto exchange. WLC.V
  3. acepowerdrive

    acepowerdrive Guest

    very little demand for a car selling for $40,000 and can go long distance road trips.

    it's just another pie in sky for now. electric cars has been a dream since the 70's. the technology is too expensive to buy and not enough electricity to power in the electric power grid the vehicles you'll need to recharge it. so it's not feasible in the large scale....public transportation is the future but the car industry doesn't want that.

    however, there would be lots of demand if the technology was feasible and price is cheap.

  4. This is not a pie in the sky nor a dream. This is the next internet. The race has already began in full force on a global scale.
  5. Check out ETLY and CRTP... I recently bought both... CRTP is reporting earnings Monday morning.
  6. Someone was discussing this same topic several days ago...
  7. S2007S


    No, this is the pie in the sky and a dream, this is NOT the next internet, many people wish it was the next internet or even catalyst to boost growth for our economy but it will be just another worthless nothing going forward, no need to get any hopes up on this electric car, the electric car was here already and gone the next, remember the EV1, what happened with that great invention by GM. Absolutely nothing. If they wanted to, they could have had electric cars on the road by every auto maker years ago, hmmmm wonder why this didnt happen, HMMMMMMM.






    The car that nobody wanted:

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  8. S2007S


    Read it, 109 years later and were still trying to put the electric car on the road, why is now any different than the last 100 years, its not going to happen.

    By Alexandra Paul
    Special to CNN

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    Editor's note: Alexandra Paul is an actress best known for her four years starring in the television series "Baywatch". She has been driving electric vehicles since 1990 and is a founding member of Plug in America. Paul can be seen in the documentary "Who Killed the Electric Car?" in theaters this summer.

    LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- I drive an electric car. Not a hybrid -- a gasoline-powered car that gets some help from an electric motor -- but a full electric vehicle. I plug it in at night and can drive 100 miles the next day and go faster than 80 mph on the highway.

    So don't think "golf cart"; these cars have power and pick-up.

    While you won't see many electric cars on the road, they've been around longer than you might think.

    In 1900, electric cars outsold both gasoline and steam vehicles because electric cars didn't have the vibration, noise and dirtiness associated with gas vehicles. But soon afterward -- with the discovery of Texas crude oil that reduced the price of gasoline, the invention of the electric starter in 1912 that eliminated the need for a hand crank, and the mass production of internal combustion engine vehicles by Henry Ford -- the electric vehicle went the way of the horse and buggy.

    The energy crisis in the 1960s and 1970s revived interest briefly. There was another push in 1990, when General Motors Corp. unveiled the (ineptly named) Impact, a sporty, aerodynamic electric car prototype.

    In 1998 the California Air Resources Board decided that if a car company could make such a car, it should, and mandated that 2 percent of vehicles sold in the state in 1998 must be emission-free, with that number rising to 10 percent by 2003.

    Since California is a huge market, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Chrysler, Ford and GM started building electric vehicles -- about 5,000 were manufactured. But by 2005 the mandate had been eviscerated because of pressure from those same car companies, and 4,000 perfectly good electric vehicles were crushed.

    But did car companies really want electric cars to succeed? The success of electric vehicles would have threatened the status quo and core business models of two of the world's biggest industries -- oil and automobile. It is more expedient for these companies to give lip service to hydrogen in an attempt to appear "green." But hydrogen is a technology that experts say is decades away.

    Because the small print in California's mandate allowed for car companies to manufacture only as many cars as there was interest in them, the game became to pretend there was no interest. Virtually no advertising money was spent to let you know electric cars existed, and even if you did find out about them salespeople actively dissuaded you from getting one.

    As with any new technology, an electric vehicle was more expensive than its gas counterpart. Also, the limited range scared off customers, even though the average American drives only 34 miles a day and every electric car could go at least twice that far on a full charge.

    These cars had great potential, but no media covered their subsequent crushing. It is only with the release this summer of the documentary "Who Killed the Electric Car?" that the full story comes out. This film chronicles the rise and fall of the General Motors EV1, an electric car I leased on the day it was released in 1996. Zero to 60 mph in 7.4 seconds, a top speed of 140 mph and a range of 120 miles. GM discontinued this car just a few years later. No car company today makes a mass-production electric vehicle.

    My current electric vehicle, a Toyota RAV4 EV, also was discontinued a few years ago. This car costs me the equivalent of 60 cents a gallon to run. I never need to get a tune-up, change spark plugs or add water to the batteries or oil to the motor. The only maintenance for the first 150,000 miles is to rotate my tires. This car is quiet, fast and emission free. I plug it in every night at home, and it charges on off-peak energy.

    Even if it were getting power solely from electricity derived from coal -- a common criticism of electric cars -- my vehicle uses 50 percent less carbon dioxide than a 24 mpg gas car (for a summary of more than 30 studies on the emissions of electric cars, hybrids and plug in hybrids, go to When I have to get new batteries, which I expect I'll will be when my car is 10 years old, the old ones will be over 90 percent recyclable.

    The concern I hear most often about electric vehicles is their range. Well, at 100 miles per charge, my electric vehicle fulfills 98 percent of my driving needs, and I live in a city where everything seems to be 40 minutes away.

    When I want to go further, I borrow my husband Ian's Toyota Prius. I don't like driving it. Am I supposed to be amazed when a car gets 43 miles per gallon? The average fuel economy mandate for cars in 1985: 27.5 mpg. For 2006: 27.5 mpg. No wonder our expectations are so low. Progress in fuel efficiency has been glacial compared to improvements in computers and cell phones.

    There is a solution: The plug-in hybrid. This vehicle will run on pure electric power for up to 60 miles, and then automatically switch to gas (or a biofuel) if you drive farther. Because around 85 percent of Americans travel less than 50 miles a day, this means that most people who charge their cars at home each night would hardly ever dip into their car's gasoline tank.

    The infrastructure to charge is already in place (electric outlets are everywhere), and the technology (batteries) has been tested in the field and greatly improved upon for over 15 years. National security experts, including former CIA Director James Woolsey, are advocates for these vehicles because they say these vehicles can help break our dependence on foreign oil. Environmentalists support them because plugging in means getting an average of more than 100 mpg. Consumers like them because they will be saving thousands of dollars in gasoline costs.

    Once you have known the quiet smooth speed and the clean efficiency of an electric vehicle, you will never think "golf cart" again.
  9. Very misleadingly phrased. A more accurate portrayal would be along the lines of by "95% of Americans travel more than 100 miles a day at least once a month".

    And therein lies the problem - electric cars are great for tooling around town (putting aside their terrible environmental impact) - but they are useless for out of town trips or god forbid you need to haul a trailer out the campsite or etc.

    Which means the typical family would need to buy and maintain more vehicles to fill the same needs.
  10. as long as batteries carry so little energy relative to gas, they will be a boutique item. Batteries add a lot of weight and a lot of expense. And they wear down, are weaker in winter and may not recoup the expense for many drivers.

    Wonder why we don't put more focus on CNG cars, as the US is swimming in natural gas, it is cheaper to use than Gasoline, puts out like 1/3 less CO2 and less other pollutants, has a lot better range than batteries, is a lot cleaner burning from an auto point of view. Has also a high energy content for weight compared to batteries. Only a Honda Civic I believe does this.

    With the same funding, we could get 10 times as many CNG cars going as the electric cars that will be running in 3-5 years. And save more CO2, etc. etc.

    And there is already at least a limited number of places that could resupply something like CNG
    #10     Aug 14, 2009