stockbroker trainee vs. prop trader trainee

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by ktlolo, Sep 13, 2006.

  1. Maybe, or he has a rare gift for it or he has a lot of rich family friends.

    So ask your pops to hook you up with those big $10billion net worth traders and get yourself some clients ready to go.

    Problem solved, question answered. Dollar Dollar Billz Yo!
     
    #31     Sep 19, 2006
  2. with an attitude like that, you've lost the battle before it's even begun....it is entirely possible to make a 7 figure or greater income in either profession, but that's obviously the top tier performers. you have to possess the tenacity and intelligence to climb to the upper echelon....
     
    #32     Sep 19, 2006
  3. MTI_44

    MTI_44

    It is my friend's father. And there is only one problem. He lives in California with his rich friends and I am in New Jersey going to Rutgers. I trade on my own between classes. I am going to see though if he does have any friends in the city.
     
    #33     Sep 20, 2006
  4. MTI_44

    MTI_44

    I agree with you 100%. I hear a lot where someone says "Yeah, but only about 1% of people actually achieve that." I always look at it as though everyone who wants to be that 1% can do it. Look at Richard Branson. He was poor when he was younger and long story short, RICH AS HELL. Going from rags to extreme multi-billionare riches is probably the .1%. But nothing is impossible.
     
    #34     Sep 20, 2006
  5. jasmine1

    jasmine1

    mit 44,

    A broker in training at Smith Barney...Lehman, hardly a bucket-shop boiler room and a 13+ year career is not the fast track to success. (The majority of brokers at SB were also worthless, mindless nitwits with one thing in mind - COMMISSION, but that's for you to figure out.
    You're an educated young man with a great deal of potential and maybe a few good contacts to help catapult your career to a place you are clearly not ready for. Make sure you're not getting hurled to the sharks.
    I'm trying to explain to you that the two professions (the old stockbrokers and the new Arcade Runners) are from the same blood line. In fact, I would bet the many (and I know most of them) are either old bucket-shop dealers or over-night millionaires from the Soes Bandit days.

    As for being a stockbroker today, it's just foolish to even ponder it. You could consider going to a mutual fund, like Fidelity, and learn very quickly how to trade by placing the orders of their customers who tend to make the wrong investment choice and learn from it. All the while building a resume that is worthy of a job in the event that you don't pass muster as a trader............
     
    #35     Sep 20, 2006
  6. With a complete lack of what is going on in the Brokerage industry, you're best off not even thinking about entering it. I never said it was impossible, but without some edge or pure luck or a gift from nature, you're in for a GRIND.
    Take a does of realism, it helps to make correct decisions, protect your downside and create a safety net. Build yourself up with the "rah rah" attitude and you may find yourself desperately broke a year from now, wondering when those 60 hour weeks will pay off.

    This is why I said to do research. I'm giving you good advice here. Don't matter where they live, E1 actually aims at international clients, mainly UK & Australia. This is 21st century.
    My friend, an ex successful broker who stupidly wasted all his money went back into the biz. He tried out E1, went back to his old boss. E1 has NO DRAW but a good payout. It's not a boiler room, they won't even let you write tickets without the account being funded. That 50-200k/month kid, I may have met him, even he says that it may have been luck on top of hard work. Landed that one client and that set off the catapult. That's still 1 in hundreds, just counting E1 alone.
    You do this. Get your friend's dad and his richie friends to at least give you a push by starting small BS accounts with you. I doubt 50k-100k is anything to them. Until you get the grasp of it, let them dictate their own trades. You may learn from them and maybe evolve.
    If you are able to come into E1 with accounts ready to go, even if they are not that big, you will get special treatment and a HUGE boost. Look, most successful brokers (discounting boiler room), are successful because they know rich ppl and come from those type of backgrounds. I've interned at Merrill's private client group in NYC (their top brokerage office) for 2 years, I would know. It's about RELATIONSHIPS, first and foremost.
     
    #36     Sep 20, 2006
  7. I have worked as a sell side position trader, a buy side fixed income manager, a sell side institutional salesman, and now a prop trader. I would choose prop trading over the rest hands down. The problem with the brokerage industry is the unchecked egos of your coworkers. Man do I have some stories. As far as sharp guys making good retail brokers, forget it, it's the dumbest that succeed in that business.
     
    #37     Sep 20, 2006
  8. You think those are tough, try an ex-college Finance Professor. I thought I was going to kill him.
     
    #38     Sep 20, 2006