Stock Trad3r INDEX

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by Comanche, Jun 29, 2007.

  1. empee

    empee

    Why only 100%? Why not 150, 200% or more.. we are rapidly moving to a level 1 civilization right? One time global boom that will cause companies to rise to the stratosphere??
     
    #271     Oct 18, 2007
  2. The transition to a type 1 civilization will not happen for another fifty years ,and there will be enormous amounts of money to be made going long. Making 50-100% a year is very realistic.
     
    #272     Oct 18, 2007
  3. There's the top everybody :eek: I don't believe it'll be a violent bear, but I think we are about to reverse again. We might have one more spike up to test highs, but I think downside is the direction we'll probably be going.
     
    #273     Oct 18, 2007
  4. Yes tradestrong, I agree, the village idiot (stock_trad3r) has spoken, so now all we have to do is wait for the bear market so he can have Baron cxl his account. What's funny to me is that this thread was started as a Stock_Trad3r trashing thread, and he (with the help of sophiekay and a few other misdirected permabulls) has turned it into a thread where he spouts his bullshit and proves to all that he is an arrogant ass who is sure to go down like the Titanic (on a much smaller scale of course).
     
    #274     Oct 18, 2007
  5. In spite the fact the markets are selling off the index is outperforming as usual

    goog up, and other stocks only down a little

    rimm only down a buck. Bidu only down 1%

    apple down a paltry .25%


    these stocks go down a little then rebound huge. No one selling these stocks because the growth is so huge
     
    #275     Oct 19, 2007
  6. until it`s time for holders to capitulate & throw in the towel should things get nasty..........then you too will have a rope of semen unleashed across your face......bear semen that is....like index longs were given today.
     
    #276     Oct 19, 2007
  7. nah it's called SKILL -something 97% of people here lack
     
    #277     Oct 19, 2007
  8. DHOHHI

    DHOHHI

    50-100% if you're a TRADER is possible. So that excludes you as an investor. Until you learn to play both sides of the market you severely limit your profit potential.

    If you're a buy & hold type you'll see your 10% (on average) over time.

    You don't reap profits until you actually sell.
     
    #278     Oct 19, 2007
  9. Um the index is up 40% while the market is flat in that interval. That proves you can make tons of returns with buy and hold provided you buy stocks that go up.
     
    #279     Oct 19, 2007
  10. You need to understand something. Stock prices are forward looking. The only reason GOOG and others held up is because the companies are financially strong and have good earnings.

    There are 2 aspects to price, Systematic risk and Unsystematic risk. The unsystematic risk are the factors that every stock has such as earnings, cash flow...etc.

    The systematic risk is the tricky part. Systematic risk has to do with macroeconomic factors that VIRTUALLY NO stock or company is immune from.

    The reason that their prices held up was because the owners of the stock are "hedging" their bets right now. Those companies are strong. If the economy can weather the tough times ahead, then those companies should be ok.

    BUT...I repeat...BUT...if the economy goes into a recession, those companies are going to be greatly hurt. Google and AAPL are both companies that REQUIRE a strong economy to be as profitable as they had in the past.

    So back to my original statement. Stock prices are forward looking. The owners of those stocks are hedging their bets by waiting for more economic indicators. *IF* the economy is confirmed to be in a down cycle, then the owners of those stocks will not value the forward looking price as being quite as valuable, and the price of the stock will fall to compensate for the reduced future earnings that will be inevitable.

    btw...you have to admit that it was funny that the market was down 300 points the day after I said your comments confirmed the top. :p While I was half-kidding by using your statements as hyperbole, I do believe that we may have topped.
     
    #280     Oct 20, 2007