Winter, your a class act and someone to be trusted. WHY? You post THE TRUTH. The other guy, stockman. I do believe is a tout. In fact, I would wager alot on that fact. I was a member of the site before as well. I know some people who followed every call and lost last week over 3k in a few days. I know for a fact your results are pretty accurate, some trade more shares, some less, thats why there is alwaya a difference in wins/losses. This other guy stockman, is 100% either a Paid tout, a friend of the owner, or the owner himself. My money is on the owner himself. Think about a few things I have to mention.. 1) the performance page is dated for 3 years, why in the world has no one from here or anywhere been a member for that long? 2) if the performance page is accurate and he is making 89k 2003, 93k 2004, and now 64k 2005, why is the oldest member of the site only been there for 4 months??? IF YOU WERE PART OF SOMETHING THAT MADE YOU THAT KIND OF MONEY WHY WOUL YOU LEAVE??????????????? 3) why in the past month HAVE I SEEN supposedly 5 traders WHON WON GOOD MONEY LEAVE?????????? ANDREA, ABHJIT, STEVEN, PAUL, GEORGE, KUMAR???? WHY WOULD YOU LEAVE A WINNING THING????? why, because they were fictitious people made up to sucker in new people, thats why. there winnings were all BS. WHY WOULD THEY LEAVE, iS THE DEFINING ANSWER. 4) why in the world does the admin, NOT TRADE HIMSELF? 5) This stockman character, why in the world does he conveniently drop in when all is well and is WORKING OR COULDNT MAKE IT TODAY WHEN THERE IS A BAD DAY????? HELL IF HE IS THAT LUCKY, START WITH THE LOTTO, just dont think anyone can consistenly "miss" the bad days. 6) who started this thread???????????? WHOOO, ??? STOCKMAN, ask yourself this, why in your wildest dreams, would you ever, ever ever, go to a chat room and start BLABBING ABOUT HOW MUCH YOUR MAKING????????? 2 reasons, YOUR A DUMB FU** who LIKES TO BRAG, to impress others abotu yoru winnings, or 2, your the owner or owners pal or partner looking for new people and this is a grest way to get some people in. you stated in your thread, YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM POSTING YOUR ACCOUNT, NOW when PEOPLE TOLD YOU HOW and OTHERS DID IT TO SHOW YOU HOW, YOU SAY, NAHHHHHHHHHh NOT WORTH IT.. LOL, now you can try and doctor anything up u like to show us but it dont matter now, you were called out, hiding something and did not provide, that tells me one thing, LIES. 7) Some will say, HES MAKING MONEY, SHUT THE F UP!, Well well, if you have been with him this entire month AND PLAYED EVERY CALL, YOU WOULD BE OUT MONEY, now i am not saying, Ok i got this one, but i missed this one, that is DUMB LUCK, I MEAN EVERY CALL... 8) WHY WOULD THE SERVICE BE 150 A MONTH, SOON AS all these new people joined, IT GOES TO 500 A MONTH!!!!! 300% INCREASE WHEN THIS THREAD WAS STARTED AND SHOWING PEOPLE THAT SOME MONEY WAS MADE, THAT IS CALLED CAPITALIZATION!!!!!!!!!!! and a great technique... I have showed you some very valid reasons that only the people in on it could possibly answer... 9) ONE LAST THING WHILE I AM THINKING.....IF IF IF IF IF, you have a "WINNING" system, ok, making all this money the last 3 years, right?, why in the WORLD OF WORLD, would you switch your method of picking, or should i say, add another method? to go from scalping to 100 share trades or doing both at the same time, IF IT AINT BROKE WHY FIX IT, WHY was it switched, well the last week when ALOT PEOPLE LOST 3k, This new system was "finally" implemented, we were told after 6 months of paper trading, could it be true, yes, how likely, NOT VERY. you try to switch something that isnt working. You dont mess with the real deal if that has been working.. 10) i know one thing, bottom line is if i were winning 89k, 93k, and now 65k, I WOULD NOT LEAVE AND I SURE DONT KNOW MANY THAT WOULD UNLESS YOUR DONE TRADING, where are these people, why is not 1 member there past 4 months, WHY?? READ ABOVE, enought clues have been posted... 11) OH YA ONE MORE THING, WHY IS THE PAYPAL ACCOUNT payments go to, SAY NEW BUSINESS OWNER, UNVERIFIED as of yet? IF THIS IS A NEW VENTURE, HOW CAN there be 3 years OF PERFORMANCE, HOW CSAN THERE BE a member from 4 MONTHS AGO? did they send, check, money order, HIGHLY UNLIKELY!! Ok I am done, I think people do need a reason to be skeptical. IF you read above and arent concerned, then god bless ya. I am not trying to flame anyone, I want the while truth, not pieces and i dont like trying to con people, that is what I am seeing by reading above, you should know what I mean.
Some more things while were at it, this stockman guy, somehow posts picks that were made, BUT HE ISNT IN THE ROOM, HOW DO I KNOW, I BEEN IN THE ROOM THE ENTIRE DAY AND WE SEE ALL MEMBERS, IF HE ISNT THERE, HE IS EITHER the OWNER, The owners friend getting the info or a partner who has the info, how can you PLAYS SOMETHING WHEN YOUR NOT IN THERE. MAYBE I NEED TO use SNAG IT TO TAKE SCREEN SHOTS ALL DAY, LOL, I dont want new people thinking something that is not really true. that is con and I dont like to be conned and dont want others to as well.
Thanks Dafishman, good points. I was looking at it when the posting started, but the Paypal thing set off some alarms for me. I couldn't figure out where all the verified memebers were for a service that had been around for so long. Also I remember looking at the site earlier when they were doing calls and then switched to managing money suddenly. They admit it didn't go well, but why would it be any better just making calls?
my only point in all of this is some things are very very shady and some things have been misleading. dont have a 3 year performance and not be able to back it up. You want a 10 year performance from me, give me 5 minutes, I will go to excel, create a nice spreadsheet for you all to see and then the figure will be up 10000000000000. Nice heh? you want to join my service now? 150 to start, then after 1 week, it jumps to 10k. why such an increase, well, i am that good! lol, come on people, read the posts, re-read them and you will see what i am talking about, stockman is nothing more than a shill or the owner, very simple to see. if he makes money and your happy staying, good for you. I want others to see the entire truth and then make there decision. Dont tell the story you want people to believe in, tell them the whole story and let them decide. thats the problem with all the pay for plays sites. alot of scammers, there just salesman in reality, doing what they can to get you in, if yo leave after one month, they still got your money.
I thought you said you spent years unsuccessfully swing trading? You seem to be doing well with your sites picks...why would you revert back to something that hasnt worked for you?
why, when members lose 3k in 1 week, to keep your business, you better somehow come up with something to keep em around. ANy old promise will do, shoot, I would say, i found the IN THE FUTURE STOCK MAG, I can tell where the stocks will be going, just send me 500 and its yours.
I have found the highest percentage of successful trades for a nice profit are selling around 10:00 am ....the HOD in lot of cases... This :30 scalp has reaped me some very nice rewards ....just a post fwiw
Let me just say that the dafishman(paul) dude was in the chat room a few days ago for about a week i think and was trading and sucking up to the admin(lead trader) every single day saying good things...Now all of a sudden he turns against the whole thing and starts talking behind his back. Maybe he lost big time in one of the bad picks? Thats the only thing that can change a person from saying "admin you are the greatest" to saying "admin you are a fraud". Wow, just never seen such a dude. I have no need to back up the site or anyone. I have nothing to do with it. As far as I know, I honestly posted gains and losses. But now, all this has really gotten on my nerves. I have decided to stop contributing to this thread. If any of the others wish, they can continue the thread. If not, just forget it. I am never in my life ever going to contribute anything to anyone in my life again. I am sorry to all those who wanted this thread to continue. steve, the 100 trades was intrday trading...When i mentioned that i quit swing trading, i meant overnight trading and holding up to 1 week. GoodBye
I dont blame you for high-tailing it out of here. You did your job, you lured in people with all your hype and got people to join. Your job is complete and now you can go into hiding. The sad thing is that people paid you and you made out. In the future I am sure you will come up with another site or way of trading, you went from scalping, to 100 shares trading to bide your time hoping people will stay on, your grasping for straws, just a matter of time before the fun ends, you do not go through life scamming. ONE last thing, today most people lost 800-2k, thats right, 2k a few lost, how do i know, I know about 5 people in there who I speak to and they told me there results they will be jumping ship, see who signs up after there memberships run out. I wish you luck, you scammed me and others, I am hoping it dont happen again.
I know that everyone is searching for the proverbial holy grail of trading, but seriously, why anyone would sign up for some shill service like this that is obvioiusly promoted by a spammer is beyond me. I am sorry for all of those who lost money following this idiot, but if you learned a lesson to rely on yourself and not some random guy making picks, then it is money well spent in the long run.