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Discussion in 'Politics' started by new to zoo, Mar 22, 2004.

  1. Cutten

    Cutten

    As it happens, I opposed the invasion of Iraq, and do not support Bush. Feel free to check my post history for confirmation. In addition, I entirely agree that the coalition took insufficient steps to avoid civilian casualties in the war - but at no point did I say otherwise. Both your accusations are false.

    You also say there is no excuse for anyone that kills innocent civilians. So presumably if someone walks out in front of your car with no warning, and you accidentally kill them, then there is "no excuse" and you should be charged with murder? Utter codswallop.

    You also say that "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter". This ignores the distinction between legitimate resistance movements, which target military/occupation/government forces only, and terrorist resistance movements, which deliberately target innocent civilians who have done no wrong. The French resistance in WWII (facing much worse odds than Hamas et al) did not have a policy of butchering innocent German civilians. In contrast, Hamas, the PLO, Al-Queda and their ilk deliberately target innocent civilians as a routine matter. Are you telling me you can't see any moral distinction between the two?

    As for industrial targets, if a factory is helping the war effort, then it and the workers in it become legitimate targets for the enemy. Japan could legitimately bomb US plane and tank factories in WWII under the rules of war. But civilians and POWs who are *not* part of the ongoing war effort are not legitimate targets, as made clear by the Geneva convention and international law. It is therefore wrong to target them (e.g. Japanese executing POWs, Allied planes shooting refugees outside Dresden etc). Thus Hamas etc, if their cause is justified, can legitimately hit Israeli army bases, soldiers, construction of the Palestine dividing wall, government buildings etc - but they have no legitimate right to attack random innocent civilians going about their normal business.
     
    #121     Mar 23, 2004
  2. Turok

    Turok

    Very well put Cutten. I really tire of morons throwing that canned terrorist/freedom fighter crap out there without thinking about the REAL difference between the two.

    JB

    PS, this is not an "us vs them" post...we (US) have done some horrible things in this arena.


     
    #122     Mar 23, 2004
  3. Man cut the crap ok? sheeshhh:eek: Are you reading what I'm writing or you have your head up your ass? sorry dude (or dudet) but this is getting old.

    The war was/is deliberate AND a fraud, it WAS NO ACCIDENT. So comparing a traffic accident where a pedestrian crosses the street without looking is not only lame on your part but beneath contempt. Grow UP!!!:cool: Did the Iraqis run into our falling bombs. How about that mother in the hospital giving birth.?????

    And what the phuck is legitimate resistance??? Says who??? YOU?You spew shit.:mad:

    Pleeeeeeesseeee don't bring up Israel and Palestinians. there are plenty of examples that Israelis fired into innocent crowds killed plenty of innocent ppl. And before you come out screaming terrorist supporter, read up all my posts and tell me where I said so...Shhhhheeeeeshh man wake up.
    Speaking of Israel, tell me what is this, pictures and all:

    http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml
    TELL ME WHAT THE PHUCK IS THAT?? And that was a US CITIZEN KILLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh and while you are at it. check all the UN resolutions our surrogate state has violated. OFC news like that don't make the national headlines.

    Shut up!!!!!:eek: :p :p

    Nothing personal man but it's getting way too old

    If you and I like Israel so much, relocate them here so they can produce in our society and pay taxes like everyone else, Instead of my tax dollars going to support the mess down there. Phucking AAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek:
     
    #123     Mar 23, 2004
  4. Cheese

    Cheese

    "TRUST GOD only, live your life by the 10 commandments" while saying to those with whom you disagree "Let me attempt to educate some of you morons". Samson77

    An approach of peace and humility .. ah, don't think so.
     
    #124     Mar 23, 2004
  5. What do you do when god tells you to kill non-believers?

    peace

    axeman
     
    #125     Mar 23, 2004
  6. He doesn't and never would.

    This is really a simple matter, we ALL know the difference between right and wrong in our hearts.

    EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US ....

    That's all I'm saying on this thread ..... Peace :)
     
    #126     Mar 23, 2004
  7. "He doesn't and never would."

    Many would beg to differ.


    "This is really a simple matter, we ALL know the difference between right and wrong in our hearts.
    EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US ....
    That's all I'm saying on this thread ..... Peace :) "


    Now that I can agree with.


    peace

    axeman
     
    #127     Mar 23, 2004
  8. "http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml
    TELL ME WHAT THE PHUCK IS THAT??"

    I don't know because I didn't click on it. Spam? A virus?

    Sam
     
    #128     Mar 24, 2004
  9. You're the resident priest, right?

    gsr
     
    #129     Mar 24, 2004
  10. "He doesn't and never would."

    That's bullshit.

    The entire Holy Bible is filled to overflowing with God telling His servants to slaughter unbelievers.

    Where are YOU coming from?

    One too many Sunday School sermons?

    gsr
     
    #130     Mar 24, 2004