Stochastics and price action

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by feb2865, May 8, 2007.

  1. "Divergence" is just another tool employed by professional money to fleece the amateur, like Fib, "pivot points", and so forth.

    There may be feints and fakeouts, but the only "divergence" -- if one could call it that -- that matters is that which occurs between price movement and the level of trading activity.

    LC
     
    #51     May 19, 2007
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Stochastics indicator is very good, however I use RSI which is a bit more reliable. Stochastics can be used by itself if you want. Your main issue will be that you are trading a 1 minute chart and your slipppage and commissions will negate the effectiveness of the indicator. You will most likely not be nimble enough , or your broker platform will not be, to take advantage of the moves on the 1 minute chart. Thank you for your time. ---Ishmael
     
    #52     May 19, 2007
  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Actually divergences are amongst the greatest tools available.
     
    #53     May 19, 2007
  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Reverse divergence is called Trend.
     
    #54     May 19, 2007
  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Probably Class B and C divergences are 50 percent of the time. Class A's are more than 80 percent.

    A hidden divergence is one that doesn't exist. Thank you for your time--Ishmael:)
     
    #55     May 19, 2007
  6. Indicator/price divergence is not the grail....but it is definitely a tool worth paying attention to....either as confirmation to enter a trade or if you are in a trade and wondering if the trend will continue or not....divergence can provide very useful clues in both situations if you are able to recognize them...

    I see no relationship between divergence and fibs/pivots....fibs and pivots are calculated levels....divergence is not.....

    It is a difficult concept for new traders to grasp, so most ignore it....you can almost hear the refrain "this seems hard so I probably don't need it"....

    To over-simplify it, if you see price heading in one direction and your favorite indicator headed in the opposite direction, it is well worth your time to notice it and understand the potential outcome....whether you take action or not.....
     
    #56     May 19, 2007
  7. No disagreement with your statement at all...however, to put it more precisely.....

    Reverse divergence between an indicator and price confirms that the trend will likely continue....and there is a well defined relationship between indicator and price that reveals reverse divergence...
     
    #57     May 19, 2007
  8. Reverse divergence/hidden divergence are one and the same and it definitely exists regardless of which term is used...
     
    #58     May 19, 2007
  9. I don't just trade hypothetically. The website was not touted as it was clear and explained that subscribers were never allowed, and I said supp/res had value but are really not used in my trading. Magna called me out on nothing, as I said in multiple ways that there was no attempts to sell anything, including in PMs to Magna. Other than that, you are pretty close.


    The thing that speaks for itself is the fact that TA is always discussed by its believers, but never proved. Freecharts.com (barchart.com freebie site) unintentionally does a very good job of shredding TA. Using 1-2 years of real data, these are the real-world results of 3 main stock indexes. Note they all negative to strongly negative. Looking at all the other commodities on the site show similar results if followed over time:

    Nasdaq
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    S&P 500
    http://freecharts.com/Commodities.aspx?page=perform&sym=SPY0
    Dow Jones
    http://freecharts.com/Commodities.aspx?page=perform&sym=DJY0

    This contains 13 popular indicators, having diff lengths of MACD, Bollinger Bands, ADI, CCI, MAs, Trend Spotter, Parabolics
     
    #59     May 19, 2007
  10. You mean, stop confusing the matter with facts??
     
    #60     May 19, 2007