Stephen Hawking on human extinction

Discussion in 'Politics' started by futurecurrents, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. "What do you want from us? To agree with you? Not going to happen."

    ^This says it all. The closed mind can never achieve wisdom. Must protect your fragile ego mustn't you? Isn't your ego the reason you post so much from the top of your hill here?
     
    #141     Jan 10, 2012
  2. pspr

    pspr

    <font size="6">Whatever</font>
     
    #142     Jan 10, 2012
  3. Mav88

    Mav88

    There you go folks, that's the fine educated liberal retort we expect when they get some disinfectant sprayed on them.

    They always claim the high road, they always claim to be intellectually superior, they go around castigating conservatives for mindless name calling.... YET with obvious lack of effective response....

    What is a fella supposed to make of these jackasses?
     
    #143     Jan 11, 2012
  4. Brass

    Brass

    No. Only ET's deep thinkers are infallible.
     
    #144     Jan 11, 2012
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    "Since you are not educated apparently I will forgive your lack of understanding of how science works."

    Precisely.
     
    #145     Jan 11, 2012
  6. Mav88

    Mav88

    I have never seen a leftist change their mind when it come to their politics, which is essentially their religion. Humanism, with its offshoots of socialism/communism, egalitarianism, and multiculturalism, is an extremely flawed set of beliefs if not inconsistent with both itself and reality.

    Climate science has become so infected with leftist agendas that I just don't believe half of it. Poltics + science = dishonesty, it is exactly the same as creationism which is religion + science. In the case of creationism it is the outsiders who have an agenda, in climate science the insiders have an agenda. You can't get a PhD unless you agree with the consensus, you can't get funding either or you are marginalized. This has happened often in science, 377 ohms can tell you about the scientific consenus of the electromagnetic aether around 1900.

    The science one can trust somewhat is so noisy that extrapolations become almost meaningless. I have seen people argue about what type of curve fitting technique applies because the signal to noise is so low and data so unreliable. The reality is that 100 year extrapolations are not hard science, they are almost wishful thinking. There are no complete and causual models, none, so that is why it is so open to the left's religious distortions.

    Quoting Hawking on Earth becoming like Venus is a very bad case of appeal to authority. Hawking is simply parroting an old discredited scare, I'm shocked he would say something so stupid. I'm not shocked that you would be impressed by it.

    If you plug your nose and split the difference, you come up with a 1.5C temperature increase in the next 100 years- big deal. Not worth putting Americans into poverty. I'll make a deal with the close minded left: Stop Africans from breeding like animals when they have no money, killing all the lions (we don't hear about that one much do we like polar bears, I wonder why, could it be it isn't politically convienient?), and chopping down the forests for charcoal, and I will start caring about China's greenhouse emissions. Until then...
     
    #146     Jan 11, 2012
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    And I've never seen a rightist do that, either, for the same reason.
     
    #147     Jan 11, 2012
  8. Mav88

    Mav88

    which is why I am a pragmatist-liberty type guy
     
    #148     Jan 11, 2012
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    Which is why, if science indicates we should probably alter our technological processes in a "green" direction (which the world is doing, by the way, to the point that it's the fastest growing sector worldwide--sales which the US is largely missing out on), and that would of course incur (short-term) costs, thereby reducing profits (short-term), aka "liberty", you then oppose the... science. Preponderance of evidence? Bah! Who cares!? A single percentage point of doubt (whether a lonely, contrary opinion, or the fact that science has been wrong before) is enough for you, not only to stop the inquiry (waste of money, only "enriching" scientists), but to throw prudence to the wind (no pun), if it means you retain your "liberty".

    But of course, it's not your liberty, anyway. You're not in oil and gas (maybe you wish you were. No, it's actually my liberty. Yeah, I'm so hard done by, by all this regulation which, after centuries of relentless accumulation, has left my business.... still profitable, and all the B2B which follows and attends us, still profitable, and all the traders paying good attention to the commodity and sector... profitable.
     
    #149     Jan 11, 2012
  10. :D :D :D Yeah, fuck that egghead Hawking:D :D :D
     
    #150     Jan 11, 2012