Stem Cells bill vetoed

Discussion in 'Politics' started by RedDuke, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Z,

    Your post makes our point ever more convincing.

    500 (and even less than that) years ago, people were burnt alive for small disagreements with Religion. Today religious fanatics try to stop inevitable shift away from blind faith. And hopefully this silliness will be gone within next few hundred years. Unfortunately too many people suffer in the process.

    redduke
     
    #31     Jul 20, 2006
  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    By the way:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5056554.stm

    Harward starts human cloning work.

    "The Bush administration has banned the use of government money to support human cloning research.

    But the world's richest university decided, after two years of vetting, to support and fund its project privately. "
     
    #32     Jul 20, 2006
  3. The military industrial complex hasn't learned how to make money off of stem cell research.

    When/if they do, there will be no problem getting federal funding for it.
     
    #33     Jul 20, 2006
  4. pattersb

    pattersb Guest

    If there truly is potential for miracle cures, than funding should not be an issue and federal funding should not be required.

    This is an issue that shouldn't be politicized. The Republicans are doing their job, they are representing their constituency. The constituency that elected them to majorities in the House, Senate and Presidency.

    Fortunately for you, their time has probably come and no doubt the Democrats will trumpet these "miracle cures" at campaign time. They, like you, will portray anyone who disagrees as a religious fanatic, regressive, hate-filled person that wants people to die unnecassarily.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34167-2004Oct14.html

    All people die, their legacy is whats important. Norma L. McCorvey ("Jane Roe") has since vehemently denounced her role in that fateful decision. Like abortion, these advances in medicine will likely devalue our humanity further.
     
    #34     Jul 20, 2006
  5. Advancements in medicine that save lives will "likely devalue our humanity further."

    Non sequitur.

     
    #35     Jul 20, 2006
  6. pattersb

    pattersb Guest


    AT WHAT PRICE?

    humanity is an idea ... man is imperfect. In a rush to strip out all imperfections, the essence of what it means to be human will likely go with it.

    Gene screening, and egg selection ....

    The cat is out of the bag. It's going to happen. Order your children via catalog. Can't stop it ...

    Good or Bad, I don't know. I'm glad I won't be around to see it.
     
    #36     Jul 20, 2006
  7. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Isn't it true, that when properly explained, 75% of Americans agree with stem cell research? At least according to the Colbert report...
     
    #37     Jul 20, 2006
  8. pattersb

    pattersb Guest


    The numbers will definitely start to skew.... the Republicans will cave.

    People are suckers for "Miracle Cures".

    Hell, much of what's prompted this debate is the fact the Chinese are plunging ahead. The Chinese who turn to tiger-penis to get turned on.

    This debate (and its consequences) are far beyond what my tiny-little brain can fathom. I know nothing ..
     
    #38     Jul 20, 2006
  9. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Well, lucky for you, here I am to explain things:

    In a democratic country (I mean in a REALLY democratic country) the Prez or the Senators/Congressmen do whatever the people want them to do.

    Like in Spain. If Spanish people want their troops out of Iraq, the government better withdraw them, otherwise they get kicked out of power. As they were....

    Thus if 75% of Americans want stem cell research, the Prez better listen, supposed he does what his constituents want him to do. That is called representative democracy. (of course it is not the case here if anybody noticed yet)

    Now, I am not saying the people are always right (there is no such a thing as universal right, by the way) but if they fuck up, they can only blame themselves.

    Democracy usually means, the rule of the majority...(and not the chosen ones or powerful ones)
     
    #39     Jul 20, 2006
  10. Do you think you may be over reacting just a little bit?

    Do you use indoor plumbing?

    Do you use any invention of man?

    Do you go to the doctor?

    Or do you just pray: "God help me" when you are sick or need something?



     
    #40     Jul 20, 2006