Starting a Hedge Fund

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by ktm, Dec 28, 2001.

  1. Pabst

    Pabst

    Sabena is of course correct. Forex along with global fixed income markets are the primary source of liquidity for funds, although the volatility of stock index futures certainly provides opportunity. But on balance Tudor Jones, Trout, Kovner ect. made the bulk of their money in Treasuries and or Forex. Don't completely write off equities though. Stocks still trade at higher vols then most anything else, and a talented trader can sacrifice short term liquidity concerns with the advantage of using capital to "goose" a company with i.e. a large short interest. You may be able to support your position in a lot of stocks, try doing that in $-Yen.
     
    #111     Feb 20, 2002
  2. sabena

    sabena

    To give an idea of the liquidity in the Forex
    market, I had a call with a guy on the Forex
    trading desk of Lind-Waldock and he told me
    that an order of 1000 lots = 10 million dollars
    is executed in seconds.

    They have over 2 billion dollars of netting
    lines with 50 of the major trading banks
    in the world giving them the best liquidity
    for their risk.
    Minimum account size is 50000,-$.

    I have no deal with these guys !
     
    #112     Feb 20, 2002
  3. Pabst

    Pabst

    Sabena: Lind is safe and secure. Full clearing member of CME and CBOT. They've been doing spot for about 5 years now. Would highly recommend them in lieu of any of these new fangled Forex firms that I get e-mails from every other day. I can lose my own money easy enough without some firm going bust on me.
     
    #113     Feb 20, 2002
  4. sabena

    sabena

    Pabst,


    The FOREX operations of Lind-Waldock and
    Refco are merged.
     
    #114     Feb 20, 2002
  5. Pabst

    Pabst

    Even better. Refco's so obnoxious, I love them. Tom Dittmer (Refco) and Barry Lind are probably worth a half billion between them.
     
    #115     Feb 20, 2002
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I will agree that Forex and Futures are a very different
    market in terms of scope and sizing than equities. My
    comments were only targeted at hedge funds that
    trade stocks.

    I will note that most hedge funds that trade currency are
    well over $1B in size.

    - Greg
     
    #116     Feb 21, 2002
  7. sabena

    sabena

    Talking about Refco,


    Their Forex division is NOT regulated !

    A lot of people don't known this....
     
    #117     Feb 21, 2002
  8. Pabst

    Pabst

    I don't believe any non-exchange derivative is regulated per se.
     
    #118     Feb 21, 2002
  9. sabena

    sabena

    The Forex division of Refco doesn't have to be regulated because it's offshore !
     
    #119     Feb 21, 2002
  10. sharper

    sharper

    I thought somebody might be interested:

    WHAT? TheStreet.com’s Advanced Disciplines & Strategies for
    Running Hedge Funds
    WHEN? May 2-4, 2002
    WHERE? The Doral Golf Resort & Spa – Miami, FL

    http://www.thestreet.com/tsc/conference_hedgefundmiami.html

    it seems a bit much to me, but I guess if you're interested in starting a hedge fund, then this would be good.

    disclaimer: I don't work for Thestreet.com, have a hedge fund, actively promote the site, or care if anybody goes...but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.
     
    #120     Feb 21, 2002