Starting a fund / raising capital

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by doublet83, Apr 21, 2012.

  1. I have addressed this point before. I don't need any more leverage than I have now. Joining a prop trading firm is of no use to me. What I do is also more akin to portfoilo management than trading.
     
    #151     Aug 27, 2012
  2. gmst

    gmst

    Given your numbers, you are highly underleveraged!

    You mentioned 5.8% monthly Max DD with. 500k of PL. If you increase the leverage by 4, you will have 25% Max DD and generate PL of 2m. 25% DD is something that most people can easily digest and live with, this is especially more true when it is your own strategy/account.

    Going at this rate in 2 yrs, you will have more than 5M of your own capital - and then you can start your own fund with your own money. SAC got started with 25M, so 5M is nothing to sneeze at. Its a very respectable sum. Newedge will sign you and they will also help you market your fund.
     
    #152     Aug 27, 2012
  3. Busta21

    Busta21

    Prop? Why would he do that for what the 1:15 intra-day?
     
    #153     Aug 27, 2012
  4. Spoken like a true gambler.
     
    #154     Aug 27, 2012
  5. Busta21

    Busta21

     
    #155     Aug 27, 2012
  6. Busta21

    Busta21

    lol - this thread is garbage. Just read that. Are you serious man? Why in the world are you wasting your time on here? How hard is it really to find someone to back you with that kind of return?
     
    #156     Aug 27, 2012
  7. gmst

    gmst

    not intraday but overnight. Bright and few others will give you overnight leverage. He said he doesn't consider himself as a trader, rather as a portfolio manager (which I assume means that his holding period is days to weeks).

    I don't know if he will get 1:15 overnight, even if he gets 1:10 overnight, thats 2-3x times his current PL depending upon what kind of Portfolio margin he is getting now. I don't see whats the confusion here. Its pretty straight logic, right? Unless if I am missing something obvious.
     
    #157     Aug 27, 2012
  8. Busta21

    Busta21

    Seems straight-forward to me. Only way it's worth your time to put money at a prop is if they can get you leverage overnight, personal opinion.
     
    #158     Aug 27, 2012
  9. I did say peak to through draw down was 8 to 10%, I think that's a good sized draw down that I wouldn't necessarily characterize as too low.

    In my long term strategy I do not use leverage for the most part. I use leverage opportunistically when I feel like a short term trade is to be made. Even then I do not get anywhere close to the 7x portfoilo margin I already have access to via IB. However, my % returns are so high because I've aggressively taken advantage of these short term opportunities. It is almost impossible to get these % returns with long term buy and hold.
     
    #159     Aug 27, 2012
  10. Hey, its not useless. The time commitment is relatively low and there is some chance of getting some useful information. Given how little I know about asset raising, the chances of me learning something is high. When I do really try to raise money or start asking around how to go about it, I'd like to at least have some basic knowledge so I know how to ask the right questions.
     
    #160     Aug 27, 2012