Spydertrader's Jack Hershey Futures Trading Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Dec 30, 2006.

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  1. Thanks tick. That's what I thought from looking at the chart. Now my next question is this. Do you know whether the "traditional" Hershey discussion about 2pairs and spikes applies equally to the tick chart and range chart (as defined in my post just above)? I do not know whether or not it does.

    In fact, IMO, it doesn't matter whether or not it does BUT one needs to be clear what, if any, differences between the two representations of the data exist. So if the JH discussion applies equally to either tick or range charts then nifty. However if it doesn't, then we need to be clear on what the changes in interpretation need to be.

    Please understand I am not criticizing what you have done, but rather simply saying that if differences exist then we all need to know this.

    Just thinking, it might be interesting to compare the two in areas of interest and see what differences, if any, exist between what the charts are "saying".

    lj
     
    #8971     Dec 26, 2007
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    So if the JH discussion applies equally to either tick or range charts then nifty. However if it doesn't, then we need to be clear on what the changes in interpretation need to be.

    I agree, clarity on the subject is desireable. I am not the one to answer your question since I am just now starting to use the OTR chart. My understanding of what was presented in the syllabus was to use the range chart.
    I have been using moving averages, and support and resistance to enter on point 3's. I now am seeing things on the OTR chart to fine tune the entry.
    Previously I would look for decreasing non dominant volume at one of these areas to enter. If I saw a x2x on a 1 or 2 min chart I expected to see a retrace of a retrace and would wait for the non dominant volume to decrease before entering, as long as the 5 min was still agreeing. At times I would use a 1 min bar to stop in, in the direction of the dominant traverse. This has worked well but am seeing the OTR chart may get one in earlier.
    Hope this makes sense.
     
    #8972     Dec 26, 2007
  3. Could you explain what you mean by: If I saw a x2x on a 1 or 2 min chart?
    And also: At times I would use a 1 min bar to stop in, in the direction of the dominant traverse.

    TIA

    lj
     
    #8973     Dec 26, 2007
  4. 12-26-2007 ES 5 minute Chart

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    #8974     Dec 26, 2007
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    #8975     Dec 26, 2007
  6. Ticktrade,

    Thanks for explaining. Onward and upward. IMO, both you and TIKI have some interesting ideas and your sharing of new info makes this thread what it is.

    Regards,

    lj
     
    #8976     Dec 26, 2007
  7. 12-27-2007 ES 5 min chart

    - Spydertrader
     
    #8977     Dec 27, 2007
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    #8978     Dec 27, 2007
  9. Here's my chart for the day. I got a new puppy for my daughter yesterday, and it was howling all night and I couldn't sleep a wink. As a result, I found myself at -$6,000 within the first couple hours. I spent the remainder of the session working it off to -$400.

    RT
     
    #8979     Dec 27, 2007
  10. I am sorry to hear you had a bad start.
    Just throwing #'s around, to get a loss that you have described, in one scenario, you could of possibly traded around 20 ES contracts and let it go against you for 25 ticks.

    That would be a large position to hold for that many ticks.


    You were very honest to come on here and share that, so feedback will be here to keep you from doing that again.
    You have posted some very good charts.
    Your post cannot be ignored. This group has worked together as a team for a year now, and it does not matter when you came aboard.

    Slow down here, there is no rush.

    It may take another year , or maybe more to solidify what we have learned.
    There is a lot here to sink in and that is going to take a while.
    Do you ever remember walking out of a class and the professor just had your head spinning ? Then you let some time pass, and one day it just clicks.

    Time, that is all that is needed.
    Let it sink in, and one day it will click.
     
    #8980     Dec 27, 2007
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