Spydertrader's Jack Hershey Futures Trading Journal

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  1. tobbe

    tobbe

    For what it's worth -

    Discussions on Str-Squ pops up now and then and I thought I'd share an observation.

    When Str-Squ was introduced I really tried to wrap my mind round it (finally an indicator ... of sorts). I soon realized that I couldn't make any sense of the histogram though (I used qcharts for this). Sometimes it seemed to work but equally often - not. After some frustration I thought that I would need a way to go back at least a few minutes and debrief. Finally I started to plot the value second by second instead of using the histogram.

    <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1715654>

    Well... no improvement there. Str-squ still seemed to exhibit a rather erratic behavior. Even strong 'signals' as some shown in the image above would sometimes be true and sometimes not. So thinking I was going further down the rabbit hole than I should I dropped Str-Squ for some time.

    Then it dawned on me... the indicator works but the feed is the problem. Str-Squ depends on data from different sources, and the feed from those sources have to be in sync with each other. If they get out of sync (one lags more or less than the other) you'll see a false signal. Note that this is independent of the lag of the feed to your computer. Retail feeds like qcharts even throttle ticks at times when market volumes pick up, which is sure to add to the erratic behavior of Str-Squ. There's more to this but I'll not delve into it here (off topic already).

    So it's important not only to see the strength of the signal in terms of value, it is equally important to see strength in terms of time. The longer a stretch or squeeze lasts, the greater the probability that the signal is really a signal (well, almost anyway). Like the one at 10:53 above (which incidentally was not a signal if I remember correctly :D . As Spydertrader keeps saying, you must know when to look).

    cheers,
    tobbe
     
    #8691     Dec 15, 2007
  2. ericta

    ericta


    For FTT trading, if the problem with Forex is the absence of volume, then my guess is that adding price indicator such as Stoc or MACD won't help. Bundlemaker once posted an indicator mimics the volume from Forex pit data ( if memory serves). PM him and I'm sure he'll be glad to help.
     
    #8692     Dec 15, 2007
  3. <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1715690>

    - Spydertrader
     
    #8693     Dec 15, 2007
  4. "Dec. 17 to Dec. 31 Final Exam"

    :eek:

    are class notes allowed :D
     
    #8694     Dec 15, 2007
  5. December Syllabus Update - Final Exam

    The year has passed by ever so quickly, and as we approach the end of this phase of the journey, the time has come to take stock of where we all stand with respect to the development of our individual skill sets. However, unlike our time at University, this Journey does not end with the Final Exam. Rather, this Journey begins with Finals Week.

    Wherever point in time, wherever location on the path, whichever resolution level you follow, one needs to evaluate progress using an objective criterion for success. More importantly, one needs to develop the critical thinking skills required for honest and accurate self-analysis. Only through a rigorous debriefing process - to include both triumph and tribulation - can a trader ever hope to improve beyond the initial stages of the learning curve. As a result, its time to sharpen those number two pencils, and (for some) take those initial first steps into the arena to battle those demons - fear and greed.

    Over the next few weeks, our Final Exam offers everyone an opportunity to present their trades (real, sim) for review. In addition, everyone also has the opportunity to 'debrief' all trades posted. In such a fashion, everyone gains experiences 'pushing the button,' but more importantly, everyone gains experience using their critical thinking skills during a 'debriefing' process. Requirements for participation in this 'collaborative iterative refinement process' include the following:

    1. Anyone choosing to post must accompany their trades with a chart used.

    2. A brief synopsis of the 'decision logic' (M.A.D.A) used must accompany each post. By example, Why did you enter? Why did you hold? Why did you exit? etc.

    3. When posting 'blotters' or trade logs, please indicate the timestamps if not included already by the trading software.

    4. No need to wait until the end of the day to post your trades. Post them anytime you prefer.

    5. While you may post as often as desired, each post should discuss a single trade, and not, and entire day's worth of trades. 'Full Day's Worth' of trades should be made under a separate post indicating same.

    6. When posting with respect to others' trades, continue to maintain the high level of professional courtesy which has permeated this thread for nearly a year.

    That's it. Those are the rules. Feel free to post as often or as infrequent as you would prefer. However, I encourage everyone to participate - both in the posting of trades and in the debriefing of others posts. Even if you feel you "aren't quite ready," I encourage participation. Unlike my previous admonishments for attempting to trade too soon in the development process, this exercise contains long lasting benefits. One can never start 'too soon' to develop the skills required for critical thinking. As a result, I invite everyone to push themselves and offer a contribution - even if only once.

    Also, should anyone wish to continue the current discussions, or if anyone requires clarification of past discussions (previously covered during the year), anyone should feel free to continue to post along these lines as well.

    As always, if anyone requires any additional clarification, please let me know.

    - Spydertrader

    P.S. For those concerned about seeing a 'Trading Video' posted, worry not. I still have plans to provide such examples. I simply haven't had the time to work my way through the 'To Do' list just yet. If I run out of time this year, I'll add a supplemental post sometime in the future.
     
    #8695     Dec 15, 2007
  6. Here is ES daily chart as of Friday's close December 14 2007.
    Added Spyder's lateral channel.

    Thanks for the reply ericta.
     
    #8696     Dec 15, 2007
  7. Most definitely.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #8697     Dec 15, 2007
  8. Pr0crast

    Pr0crast Guest

    For anyone wishing to post an accompanying video clip with their trade, I can provide practically infinite web space and bandwidth (so we don't have to resort to those ad-based xxx pop up storage sites).

    To upload, use an FTP program to connect to: ftp.pr0crast.com

    username: "et@pr0crast.com" (w/out quotes)

    password: "ftt123" (w/out quotes)

    The link to your file will be: http://et.pr0crast.com/filename.ext

    PM me with any problems, and happy posting.

    PS- FlashFXP is the best FTP program to use for uploading. 30 day trial available here.
     
    #8698     Dec 15, 2007
  9. Tums

    Tums

    Here's an Index to the Journal:

    The Beginning …….
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1309688#post1309688

    January -- Volume
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1311144#post1311144

    January -- FTT (Jack’s old post)
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1311932#post1311932

    January -- BO and FBO
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1310580#post1310580

    January -- Recap
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1344554#post1344554

    February -- The YM leads the ES
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1346565#post1346565

    February -- Housekeeping
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1376813#post1376813

    February -- Gaussian Drills: 1, 2 & 3
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1374668#post1374668
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1378104#post1378104
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1378299#post1378299

    March -- Gaussians and PV
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1379383#post1379383

    March -- Forest and Trees
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1379701#post1379701

    March -- Quiz
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1419509#post1419509

    April -- Stretch / Squeeze
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1420617#post1420617

    April -- Check Up
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1452213#post1452213

    May -- Fundamentals Review
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1452816#post1452816

    May -- Volumne Review
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1453031#post1453031

    May -- PRV / STR / SQU
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1465746#post1465746

    June -- DOM Depth of Market
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1486683#post1486683

    June -- Harmonics
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1488615#post1488615
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1496177#post1496177

    July -- Tic Chart intro
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1551602#post1551602

    August -- The Tic Chart
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1554291#post1554291

    September -- Flaws
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1589321#post1589321

    September -- Flaws and Internal Formations
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1589874#post1589874
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1590869#post1590869

    October -- Additional Signals for Change
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1626218#post1626218

    November -- Putting it all Together
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1676936#post1676936

    November Follow-Up (If1-If2)
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1700986#post1700986

    December Syllabus Update - Final Exam
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1715718#post1715718




    Additional notes:

    01-04-07 02:29 AM -- Hitch
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1314050#post1314050

    01-11-07 08:46 PM -- Mistaken FTT
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1323389#post1323389

    04-28-07 11:50 PM -- HVS
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1451061#post1451061

    06-14-07 12:53 AM -- Gaussian Review
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1500589#post1500589

    07-08-07 08:10 PM -- From another thread ....
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1524692#post1524692

    07-11-07 08:17 PM -- Hitch
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1528592#post1528592
     
    #8699     Dec 16, 2007
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