Spydertrader's Jack Hershey Futures Trading Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Spydertrader, Dec 30, 2006.

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  1. I just realized, I got kind of hornschwaggled again. I asked about increasing volume on a pt3 being a strict rule. No reply.
     
    #5841     Sep 18, 2007
  2. dkm

    dkm

    There will always be increasing volume, in the dominant direction, as price moves away from a pt3. It may not be on the pt 3 bar, but it will appear.
     
    #5842     Sep 18, 2007
  3. 1. If you followed directions and truly cleared your mind, then good to hear. I am confident the log-ins belonged to your wife for research purposes as that is what you have stated.

    2. You still appear stuck in a single solution mindset. You've been handed (gift-wrapped) a map with directions. The map says, you still don't have the fundamentals down cold, and that is where your focus needs to go. Unfortunately, this realization falls in direct conflict with what you have stated many times. The reality check is this, you do not need to see me or anybody else trade (even though you did see this thought process live in Tucson) to create a foundation of strong fundamentals.

    3. I trust this answer wasn't esoteric for your needs.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #5843     Sep 18, 2007
  4. Pr0crast

    Pr0crast Guest

    Well put.
     
    #5844     Sep 18, 2007
  5. I wasnt' going to comment, line by line, but I'm kinda flabbergasted by the attitude here, so in my own defence here goes:

    1) I was not trading. I was annotating pt3's. No where did anyone EVER say pt3's work different at low volume levels.

    2) I'm fully aware of what you point out. I was just being complete and not skipping any point 3. I honestly thought a pt3 was a pt3, based on nothing being said to the contrary. NOt in Tucson, not in Jacks PDFs, not here.

    3) There is a DIRECT CONTRADICTION (yes, these words) in what you told me on the phone and what you posted here. If you want me to be more specific, let me know. For now, just be aware that you did in fact give two very different (to me anyway) rules on the phone and in the thread.

    4) I have repeatedly asked about expounding on this. Still no answer. I do not understand how to tell bar by bar, change versus continuation with various combinations of open and close being equal and various overlaps of this kind of bar with a consecutive bar. No where in any of the material are these VERY COMMON situations discussed.

    5) Again, my intent was to understand pt3's and hadn't made this correlation. You've noticed how smart I seemed to be on another thread. Please don't take that to mean I actually am smart. I don't pretend to be. I learn by copying. It's aweful damn hard to copy what you can't see.

    6) I already covered this in last post. I am hurt.
     
    #5845     Sep 18, 2007
  6. Tums

    Tums

    I wanted to find out for myself: I have cropped the chart, moved the volume up for easy visual alignment, and enlarged the image so that I can see clearly.

    <img src="http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1610392">
     
    #5846     Sep 18, 2007
  7. This is clear beyond belief. It actually kind of shakes me up a lot, because it seems like no amount of practice will clear this up. Making mistakes is one thing, just plane missing huge chunks of what I need to pay attention to (which is what I'm doing) is quite another.

    There's a saying about practice making perfect. That is a VERY misleading statement. PERFECT practice makes PERFECT.
     
    #5847     Sep 18, 2007
  8. Tums

    Tums

    <img src="http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1610396">
     
    #5848     Sep 18, 2007
  9. Tums

    Tums

    <img src="http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1610398">
     
    #5849     Sep 18, 2007
  10. bi9foot

    bi9foot

    From Pr0crast a few hours ago...

    Quote from Pr0crast:

    Hi bundle,

    I'll take a stab at it, though. From what I can see, there is 100% always every time increasing volume at a point 3, ....


    Remember as Spyder has stated before, this method is not about being 100% right every time. Mistakes will be made and what is important is how fast you correct your mistakes.

    If low volume point 3s cause trouble for you, why don't you leave them alone and only go with point 3's that have increasing volume.
     
    #5850     Sep 18, 2007
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