Spydertrader's Jack Hershey Futures Trading Journal

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  1. Immediately after the two 'CCC bars', we see Volume form an Intra-bar Gaussian Shift. The bar starts of headed higher (Black Volume?), then Price turns and heads lower (Red Volume?). In the process, Price creates an "Engulfing Bar" which overshadows the two previous 'CCC Bars'. I'll bet if someone changed the 5 min ES fractal to 1 min, you'd see things clearer.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3851     May 25, 2007
  2. How about this this....

    Viewed this way, that black bar is just part of a lateral which is a non-dominant traverse. Also, that bar is right at Pro's RTL and one would expect increasing blk at that point. The fact you don't get it is probably a pretty good clue.
     
    #3852     May 25, 2007
  3. ivob

    ivob

    Hi,

    I saw it the same way. I just didn't understand the two points used to draw the up channel. The 1st point makes sense because that's where the incr. black started. The second one just seems some small black bar somewhere in the lateral (on lower volume). Black volume of these bars is even decreasing and not increasing. Here's my view on the possible channels in this area where the 1st option has my preference (and that's how I drew it). The 2nd option depends on how volume developed in the second bar used as part of it is red. I used orange.

    regards,
    Ivo
     
    #3853     May 25, 2007
  4. Hey Bundle,

    Thanks for the feedback. Just trying to stimulate some PV discussion. Hopefully, in a positive manner. I appreciate that you, Aurum, and Pr0 took the time to post.

    spooz
     
    #3854     May 25, 2007
  5. Hey Pr0,

    Using hindsight, here's a zoomed out view of the snippet being discussed...

    Edit: I forced the gaussians to synch to the Forest up channel. Tapes not included :D

    FWIW,

    spooz
     
    #3855     May 25, 2007
  6. Pr0crast

    Pr0crast Guest

    Since there is no obvious point 3 to work with by your standards, I defaulted to the last bar before the gaussian reversal, under the assumption that BOs of RTLs occur at R2R.
     
    #3856     May 25, 2007
  7. Pr0crast

    Pr0crast Guest

    Cool, thanks for posting.
     
    #3857     May 25, 2007
  8. Spyder:

    Today spent some time looking for flaws in what seemed to be non-dominant traverses at first and indeed found that it almost always means that trend is already changed and next to flaw goes switch in volume.

    But now became curious: why is this so? What mechanism is behind this fact?

    P. S. For those who may be interested I talk about trend change discussion in chat (http://www.elitetrader.com/ch/DigiC...t/Transcripts/Elite_Trader_Chat/20070525.html)
     
    #3858     May 26, 2007
  9. This is interesting stuff. Could you post an example (PV chart)?

    As to the reason: at every price level someone thinks it's a bargain (given their motivation and history). There is always a pause after P1s while the market catches on. This pause allows those who have been on the wrong side of the previous trend to finally get out at what they think is a reprieve, just before the herd comes in at what becomes P3. Amidst all this action (between P1 and P3) are scalpers who are in and out at a couple of ticks and weak stops placed the wrong side of P1 (flawed strategies create flaws).

    This is how I see it anyway.
     
    #3859     May 26, 2007
  10. <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1481045>
     
    #3860     May 26, 2007
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