Spydertrader's Jack Hershey Futures Trading Journal

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  1. ivob

    ivob

    Hello, a question.

    You mentioned on washed trades you take a max of 1-2 tick loss (occasionally 3). Does this also mean that that's the maximum heat you would take or are there moments when you're down more and price goes back to your 2-3 ticks and you get out?

    For example on downtrend and you are short, if there is no FTT but price does break RTL. So there is just a normal non-dom traverse. You mentioned somewhere in the beginning of this thread the procedure is to reverse on point 3 up after this BO (I am not talking beginners here, beginners exit on RTL break of course). However, this may imply you could be down more than 2-3 ticks or am I wrong.

    thanks,
    Ivo
     
    #3141     Apr 25, 2007
  2. ramora

    ramora

    Thanks for the movie and your sharing of information.

    In looking at the move the bars are not the 'extreme' values of each bar as I sometimes see the bar spike up to +4 or -3 before closing at a much less extreme value.

    What are the highs and lows of each bar if not the extreme?

    Thanks again
     
    #3142     Apr 25, 2007
  3. ivob

    ivob

    Another example of this morning where the break of the second tape formed the up signal. First break was a fade, second a go. Of course same time you check other instruments (YM, PRV, str/sq).

    BTW the pt3 was also (in my drawing) an FTT on the lateral.

    regard,
    Ivo
     
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    #3143     Apr 25, 2007
  4. As you no doubt read during the beginning of this Journal, I advise spending a great deal of time observing the market.

    As others have advised, you need to focus on learning the methods at this point in time. Concerning yourself over the profitability of others, or focusing on entry and exit points, provides a recipe for your own failure. I've watched (through your posts) as you have repeatedly attempted to place the cart far in front of the horse. The systematic process laid out before you requires a great deal of individual effort to learn. The reason for such effort stems from the fact you are learning an entirely different way of looking at the market and trading. Again, I encourage you to take the time necessary to insure your own success, and review, practice (and review again if necessary) the key points discussed in the many pages contained within this Journal.

    I am confident other traders will agree with the advice I have given you here.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3144     Apr 25, 2007
  5. Even Harmonics = Lateral (CCC, HVS, etc.) = Continuation
    Odd Harmonics = Spikes (STR / SQU picks these up for you) = Change

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3145     Apr 25, 2007
  6. It isn't complicated. The difficult part requires the individual to 'forget what they think they know' during the learning process. Once the trader understands channels and gaussians, the rest of the dominos begin to fall into place.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3146     Apr 25, 2007
  7. Thanks for posting it.

    RE: noon FTT

    I believe we both had an FTT at today's noon (eastern time, 11am Texas Time) bar.

    I did not see any S/S signal in either my data or yours for this. Was there some indication from the S/S that I missed? I did see from the YM PV that this was a likely FTT but this was at the 1102 TT (12:02 ET) bar.

    Any comments are welcome.

    Thanks,
    Doug
     
    #3147     Apr 25, 2007
  8. No. I do not 'take heat' in the sense most people use the term. When I say I 'take a loss' I mean to say that price has moved a certain distance before I realise I misread the market. Sometimes, I exit with a small profit. Other times, I reverse with a break even (wash) trade. Occasionally, I reverse and take a loss because I wasn't paying close enough attention, or the market moved too fast, or I was just plain too stupid :D to react quicker. The resulting reversal then provided me the 'loss' for that particular trade.

    I don't make error's based on P & L. When I make an error, I have failed to read the market correctly for whatever reason. In such a case, I immediately recognize my error and immediately take action to fix the incorrect action I previously made. The distance price has moved before I take corrective action results from a factor of time. The faster I recognize my error, the more likely I end up with a small profit or wash trade. The longer it takes for me to recognize my error, the greater the opportunity for me to experience a loss. Those that have seen me trade live often note how quickly I reverse position once I recognize me error. I do not play the game of thinking, hoping or believing "it will come back." I take immediate action.

    I hope the above post provides the clarification you were looking for.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3148     Apr 25, 2007
  9. I left behind just enough Tequila for a return trip later in the year. :D

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3149     Apr 25, 2007
  10. The bars represent where the STR / SQU fell at the close of the bar. The Qcharts Histogram does not display the 'extreme' values once time passes. For this reason, I have never posted a 'chart' of STR / SQU, but felt some might find some value in a video (where one could see the extremes recorded in real time).

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3150     Apr 25, 2007
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