Spydertrader's Jack Hershey Equities Journal II

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  1. switch

    switch


    RIMM just landed there :)
     
    #3591     Sep 29, 2006
  2. While its nice to enter on a pullback, waiting for one to occur often results in a trader missing a substantial initial move. I have found dropping down to a lower timeframe (fractal as Jack would say) often provides the answers you need to make an informed decision. Better to try to anticipate the price break-out from a lateral formation (FTEK). I often take smaller positions when I have less confidence in a move. Although Jack advises using Market Orders, I have often used Limit Orders in fast moving markets in an effort to make sure I don't receive fills with huge slippage involved. However, doing so sometimes results in never receiving a fill at all.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3592     Sep 29, 2006
  3. You should really have your focus right here. In your own words, you viewed your input parameters, and made a timely decision. Unfortunately, you failed to take appropriate action. No need to investigate additional input parameters or to evaluate additional decision-making algorithms. You passed those hurdles. Work on 'taking timely action' now. IF you don't have a comfort level which allows for appropriate action taking steps, scale back on your size until you arrive at a comfort level.

    - Spydertrader
     
    #3593     Sep 29, 2006
  4. foible

    foible

    Very insightful, thank you. I hadn't looked at it this way.

    I will say that, based on my understanding of the method, I am looking for circumstances where we get a rush of volume into a stock which indicates the beginning of a new trend and a lot of follow-on volume. With FTEK, the biggest scare factor was not the price or %age increase (I've taken many trades with a larger change), but the enormous spike in volume.

    It didn't grow smoothly and looked totally out of proportion to what proceeded it. Something similar happened with SMSI yesterday (though it wasn't so abrupt, and had a lot more follow-through).

    Looking at the chart, you can see what I mean. It looks like some hotshot just gobbled up a few tens of thousands of shares and then walked away. Jack warned us about this when he talked about looking for large block prints, but this looked like a very similar situation.

    What do you think?

    (Here's the 15 minute chart to show you what I mean.)

    <img src="http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1215868"/>
     
    #3594     Sep 29, 2006
  5. foible

    foible

    Of course, I had no way of knowing that volume would die off as dramatically as this. But when volume shoots up to 35% of average daily volume in 20 minutes, especially as it was just in dryup.

    I didn't know what was going on, so I stayed away.

    Based on your experience over the last few years, is such a runup something that we can expect to see, or is this an aberation?
     
    #3595     Sep 29, 2006
  6. dannyk

    dannyk

    I closed my position in FTEK @ 14.80. I did not like how the volume dried up so quickly. The stoch and macd were also looking ill fated. Any thoughts?
     
    #3596     Sep 29, 2006
  7. When volume moves very quickly in a very short period of time, followed by next to no continuing volume to support the initial price move, experience tells me to expect a nice sized pullback.

    - Spydertrader

    Edit: Draw a line midway through the opening bar (30 min chart), and monitor what happens to price as it approaches (if it does) this area.
     
    #3597     Sep 29, 2006
  8. Is there a tool in Qcharts that will calulate the 50% retrace? I recall icarus618 always having the 50% marked out in his Esigal charts.
     
    #3598     Sep 29, 2006
  9. foible

    foible

    There is the fibonacci retracement tool (labeled just "Retracement") which includes a 50% retracement line. I used to used that all the time when I was day trading, and was a big part of the reason that I paid for QCharts in the first place.
     
    #3599     Sep 29, 2006
  10. Thanks, just what I was looking for.
     
    #3600     Sep 29, 2006
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