SPY options bid ask spreads

Discussion in 'Options' started by cafeole, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. cafeole

    cafeole

    I like to daytrade the current SPY option expiration. The spreads, up until now, have been good and only widen marginally, if at all, when the price moves.

    However, the last week or so I have noticed much wider spreads and if I do find an acceptable spread and the underlying goes my way the spread widens to the point I can't any money on the move.

    I understand about yesterday, the IV was over 100. I don't understand the other days.

    Can anyone explain this?
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2018
  2. qlai

    qlai

    Look at how fast the underlying (SPY) is moving ... blazing through levels.
     
  3. cafeole

    cafeole

    I know, but the ask moves, just not the bid.
     
  4. qlai

    qlai

    You sure it's not your platform?
     
  5. cafeole

    cafeole

    I am not sure of anything.
     
  6. cafeole

    cafeole

    It could be that all the volume is on one side.
     
  7. prc117f

    prc117f

    I sold short 245 calls a few weeks ago. Never did I think it would pierce the strike price.
     
  8. qlai

    qlai

     
  9. Ayn Rand

    Ayn Rand

    Bid ask spread is a function of expected intraday volatility. When no one knows what is going on the bid ask spread gets larger.

    "I know, but the ask moves, just not the bid."

    When a market maker sells an option, money is made. When you buy an options you only make money when you sell. Market maker knows this. Market maker is primarily on the bid side.

    In a very fast moving market, market makers will slam the bid down and leave it there. If you are a sucker you will take it.

    In many cases, closer to the close the bid will come up.
     
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  10. qlai

    qlai

    How far down? Wouldn't the market maker need to re-price as the underlying moving down fast? I can't imagine the bid not moving in fast markets. There should be multiple MMs. How far OTM is the option? Just trying to learn something while we are on the subject.

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    #10     Dec 20, 2018