SPY/GLD/TLT optimized portfolio balance

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by BinaryAlgorithm, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. Daal

    Daal

    VT is probably a good global ETF, its still US heavy but at least half of it isn't. But as far as leverage is concerned, I still dont like the idea.

    I just have seen this stuff blow up in too many countries to be comfortable (Iceland was another one I forgot to mention). You can use 'natural' leverage though. For instance, I just happen now to be bullish in Greek stocks. Currently I have 35% of my assets in equities. about 3-4% of that is in Greek stocks. They are a lot more risky than SPY, offering a much bigger return and risk as well. So they are offering me 'natural' leverage (what I and Taleb call convexity) but A LOT less tail risks than debt leverage does. If Greece fall off the face of the earth, I cannot lose more than what I put in. Bitcoin is similar in that regard.
    If you think about it, the best portfolio on earth (in risk adjusted terms) is 99% super safe assets and 1% tech startups that can be the next FB. You NEVER risk more than 1% drawdowns (in fact, less if you consider interest income) but you can STILL become a billionarie. That teaches us that in portfolio design what you want is safety+exponential returns (natural leverage). Plain old leverage can increase return but it comes with huge risks as well.
     
    #11     Dec 12, 2019
  2. I searched https://etfdb.com/etfdb-categories/ , and started to throw things into the correlation matrix against SPY/GLD/TLT. It's hard to find something that diversifies against SPY, and there are even fewer things that are not correlated to any of them (but maybe that is an opportunity to run it with more components?). To be honest I think a portfolio only needs 3-5 uncorrelated asset classes.

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    #12     Dec 12, 2019
  3. traider

    traider

    Is this on options trading? The sample period seems too short but the sharpe is fantastic.
     
    #13     Dec 12, 2019
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  4. @BinaryAlgorithm In case you are interested to visualize the portfolios you could use https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/
    In the section Portfolio Optimizer you can see a visual representation of the Efficient Frontier, giving a good indication of risk versus reward. By hovering over the resulting charts you can see what combinations of ETFs work well.
     
    #14     Dec 13, 2019
  5. Ah, yeah the same site that does the correlation matrix also does: https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/optimize-portfolio , which is faster for testing any symbols I want to throw in. I'm running through dozens of high sharp ratio long lived ETFs for each component.
     
    #15     Dec 13, 2019
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  7. Magic

    Magic

    Yeah, options and options on futures. And you're absolutely right to take it with a big grain of salt. The more esoteric something is the more inherently unstable it is, unless you're got a high confidence arb going on.

    Which is the main caution I wanted to issue to OP. Going into a medical devices ETF for an additional sliver of performance; the value you're giving up by losing robustness is way greater than the hypothetical jump in performance, even if it does materialize. Backtesting is fine, but take the concepts you learned and fit them to an intelligent forward-looking strategy. The fact that an allocation was had peak stats in a past period is to me almost a guarantee it's not going to be the best answer going forward. It may be close to the best answer at the start of the next regime which is similar to the one you just tested though.

    But regarding my strategy, I don't think something this will ever make it to the confidence inspiring history you're alluding to. When the risk factors change or the yield doesn't seem as attractive for the risk I'm taking; I am going to pull the strategy. If we get another smooth quarter or two and I've done 150% on my risk capital, that's a great run. And if I have the time/inclination I'll start looking for something else. Or just keep this on the shelf in case another time comes along where the conditions seem very favorable to what this is tailored for.
     
    #17     Dec 13, 2019
  8. traider

    traider

    My thinking is slightly different, I will first get a good day job. Then I will bet the farm if the strategy really has sharpe > 2. If it works out retire, else just continue slogging.
     
    #18     Dec 13, 2019
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  9. Magic

    Magic

    Nothing wrong with that. A lot of trading questions are based off personal utility functions. Really pressing an advantage should lead to a good mean outcome for your distribution of possible outcomes. But that will also introduce some pretty poor outcomes in the left tail. In theory, with marginal utility of the next dollar dropping off, so even a slim chance of a significant loss isn't worth additional growth potential. When you're bootstrapping that isn't much of a concern. Most people I know who have been at it for a while naturally start to hedge their bets.
     
    #19     Dec 13, 2019
  10. clacy

    clacy

    What you are describing is not too far off of Harry Browne's "Permanent Portfolio". There is a lot of info on the permanent portfolio.

    25% Gold
    25% US stocks
    25% Long duration treasuries
    25% short duration treasuries
     
    #20     Dec 13, 2019